Gender Gap.........Romney got stomped

[JustRalph]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158588/ge...gn=syndication

I am surprised, but not really.

I spend some time with some young people and 9 of 10 I spoke to brought up the "war on women" as a reason they were not voting for Romney. and this was in Texas. These were all 20 something females I spoke with.

Women rely on handouts more than ever in this country. Easy pickings for the Dems.

[elysiantraveller]

It starts with being Pro-Life and embracing, as a party, the dream of one day repealing Roe vs. Wade. (unbelievable the party still talks about it... it was 4 decades ago)

Romney is most likely pro-choice (says he isn't but I don't think he cares) but the GOP embrace of the pro-life crowd (ie Santorum) makes it pretty easy to sell a war on women...

I understand the actual policy is a lot more nuanced than this gross over-simplification but its pretty easy to formulate a campaign against the GOP on the issue... throw out a few "rape baby" comments by other GOP members and you've got "smoke and mirror" gold...

[Tom]

I guess handouts are part of women's lib.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Tom

I guess handouts are part of women's lib.

Naw, they just get offended at the notion that they might have to carry a rapists baby to term. Or, that they're just a bunch of 'binders'.

[sammy the sage]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Naw, they just get offended at the notion that they might have to carry a rapists baby to term. Or, that they're just a bunch of 'binders'.

This EXACTLY...it's a shame really...a SIMPLE concept...

Look if a man had to carry an unwanted unborn child...this WOULD have never be/been an issue...

[Rookies]

Originally Posted by sammy the sage

Look if a man had to carry an unwanted unborn child...this WOULD have never be/been an issue...

Pretty good line on the outlier part of this divisive issue which heavily contributed to handing defeat to Akin & Mourdock. On the whole, Ralph is correct that Women were a lynchpin in the President getting elected in 2008 and then again last Tuesday. But, not only for his rationale as a 'taker' of Governments' benefits. Rather, that the Democratic party has been more responsive to women across a panoply of issues and the Republicans are perceived (and have been so perceived) as the party who is not.

This article in the NYT summed up what is obvious to almost everybody, not named Karl Rove:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/su...tion.html?_r=0

Women, Hispanics and Asian-Americans, voters under 45, liberals and moderates, those living in the Northeast and the West, and urban dwellers gave a majority of their votes to Mr. Obama. His opponent, Mitt Romney, lost with a far narrower and less diverse band of support — mostly men, voters 45 and older, conservatives, Southerners, evangelical Christians and married voters. The gender gap — the difference between a candidate’s votes from men and votes from women — has been studied for more than 30 years. This election, women were 10 points more likely to support Mr. Obama than men were...

Or for that matter, Bill Oreilly, who had this curious thought post Tuesday:
"The demographics are changing. It's not a traditional America anymore."

Whaaaa? Was Ike just elected?
Did anybody outside of the hard core Con base believe that Ward Cleaver was coming to the rescue of America?
That BM's flogging of the pictures of the Mittens' Wonderbread family was a less than subliminal sign to vote for the 'classic- traditional' Family Guy?

That 'traditional America-Rockwell' icon has long sailed, certainly in 2008. Eventually, due to pop demographic shifts, up to half of the South and the entire SouthWest will eventually vote Democrat nationally.

It will NEVER be returning.

The growing population face of America will be a minority one, particularly the Hispanic component and it will take an overwhelming (+80%) number of older, White males (obviously a decreasing number) to counteract that. Not going to happen.

And this was the first time, I believe, that the incumbent wasn't shellacked, with the economy tanking. THAT, is a very bad sign for Republicans.
This doesn't mean that Republicans can't win in individual states, by pushing social agendas antithetical to a majority of Americans. They can- but on a national level, they're doomed.

Republicans, like any other voter, can always retain their personal beliefs on these issues. However, they need to stop yelling about planks, like anti- Gay Marriage and anti- Illegal Immigration (perceived as anti- Hispanic). Concentrate on economic issues, eliminate the backscratching quid pro quos among politicians, providing intelligent entitlement reform, etc. If they have any chance of winning future, national elections, that's the road to take.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Naw, they just get offended at the notion that they might have to carry a rapists baby to term. Or, that they're just a bunch of 'binders'.

Seriously, a really stupid reply.

[Tom]

Look if a man had to carry an unwanted unborn child...this WOULD have never be/been an issue...

Followed by an equally stupid reply.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Women rely on handouts more than ever in this country. Easy pickings for the Dems.

What a truly ridiculous statement. Off the cuff, no factual basis.
What's new around here? Ah, yes....same blowhards, different day.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by Rookies

However, they need to stop yelling about planks, like anti- Gay Marriage and anti- Illegal Immigration (perceived as anti- Hispanic). Concentrate on economic issues, eliminate the backscratching quid pro quos among politicians, providing intelligent entitlement reform, etc. If they have any chance of winning future, national elections, that's the road to take.

That's like telling a dog with fleas to stop scratching........

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

That's like telling a dog with fleas to stop scratching........

You conveniently ignore the fact that the "non-white" Dem electorate that you so like to claim is proof of how out of touch the GOP is with the country, is in fact MORE ALIGNED with GOP social stances when it comes to gay marriage and religion as compared to Dem social stances.

Of course, a poll or two was released right before the election claiming a sudden and remarkable shift in attitude among blacks in terms of supporting gay marriage...in 2011, only 36 percent of blacks favored gay marriage. This year, that number seems to have risen to 44 percent. Still behind the 49 percent of whites who favor gay marriage.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

You conveniently ignore the fact that the "non-white" Dem electorate that you so like to claim is proof of how out of touch the GOP is with the country, is in fact MORE ALIGNED with GOP social stances when it comes to gay marriage and religion as compared to Dem social stances.

Doesn't matter. They aren't 'line in the sand' issues.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Doesn't matter. They aren't 'line in the sand' issues.

How can this be? Isn't the claim being made that these social issues (gay marriage, "war on women," etc.) are what lost the election for Romney?

The left is certainly making it seem like these ARE line in the sand issues...they are stating point blank that the "out of touch" GOP is the reason why they lost.

They certainly weren't making the claim that it was the GOP stance on the economy that lost the election for them...they keep harping on these other items that (I agree) are not (or should not be) "line in the sand" issues.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

How can this be? Isn't the claim being made that these social issues (gay marriage, "war on women," etc.) are what lost the election for Romney?

The left is certainly making it seem like these ARE line in the sand issues...they are stating point blank that the "out of touch" GOP is the reason why they lost.

They certainly weren't making the claim that it was the GOP stance on the economy that lost the election for them...they keep harping on these other items that (I agree) are not (or should not be) "line in the sand" issues.

I was responding to your comments that Blacks and Latinos are more in line with conservative positions on social issues. I can't speculate on claims from one side or the other. Based on turnout my educated guess is that the democrats simply did better in getting out the vote. Millions of republicans passed on this election. That was the difference.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158588/ge...gn=syndication

I am surprised, but not really.

I spend some time with some young people and 9 of 10 I spoke to brought up the "war on women" as a reason they were not voting for Romney. and this was in Texas. These were all 20 something females I spoke with.

Women rely on handouts more than ever in this country. Easy pickings for the Dems.

handouts?
lol
i would think the abortion issue would be about 1000 times more relevant than handout concerns...