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07-16-2012, 01:06 AM
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Jeremy Lin's offer by Houston
I read where Lin makes big bucks for the Knicks and that he is bigger than Tebow right now.
Should the Knicks match Houston's offer?
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07-16-2012, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by highnote
I read where Lin makes big bucks for the Knicks and that he is bigger than Tebow right now.
Should the Knicks match Houston's offer?
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The Knicks are clueless. I'm not sure if Lin was worth the offer Houston made, he probably isn't. But Raymond Felton? Seriously?
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07-16-2012, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cj
The Knicks are clueless. I'm not sure if Lin was worth the offer Houston made, he probably isn't. But Raymond Felton? Seriously?
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Houston must be Linsane. Sorry. That's lame.
Raymond Felton -- I don't know him.
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07-16-2012, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by highnote
Houston must be Linsane. Sorry. That's lame.
Raymond Felton -- I don't know him.
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What? EVERYBODY loves Raymond!
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07-16-2012, 09:49 AM
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Felton played pretty well when was the Knicks(17 points and 9 assists per game). His trade to Denver and later to Portland did not work out well for him. The Knicks are clearly hoping he can "go home again". They will be very happy with anything resembling with 17 and 9 from him especially the 9. The 14 mil in the third year of Lin's Houston contract is a deal killer for the Knicks.
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07-16-2012, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Felton played pretty well when was the Knicks(17 points and 9 assists per game). His trade to Denver and later to Portland did not work out well for him. The Knicks are clearly hoping he can "go home again". They will be very happy with anything resembling with 17 and 9 from him especially the 9. The 14 mil in the third year of Lin's Houston contract is a deal killer for the Knicks.
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Stats...stats...stats....Felton is a cancer, I don't care what numbers he puts up. Why do you think he keeps getting moved?
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07-16-2012, 11:15 AM
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If Houston is prepared to feature Lin as well as they did Yao, then the league would be behind the move to Houston.
A successful market grab for that demographic elevates the Rockets significantly.
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07-16-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Stats...stats...stats....Felton is a cancer, I don't care what numbers he puts up. Why do you think he keeps getting moved?
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Felton had those stats pre Mello with a pick and roll offense. That has gone down the drain with Mello ( who is probably running the asylum) and Woodson.
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07-16-2012, 12:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
The Knicks are clueless. I'm not sure if Lin was worth the offer Houston made, he probably isn't. But Raymond Felton? Seriously?
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It really was a lot of money only time will tell if he's worth it. Once again a smart GM got awfully creative and put the Knicks in a serious bind. Here's two articles that are a really good read about the cap repercussions. There is a reason that there is all these sign and trades and not the mid level exception.
The new collective bargaining agreement contains several rules designed to discourage spending at the high end. One such rule creates a hard cap -- placed $4 million above the luxury tax threshold -- for any team that uses the full midlevel exception, valued at about $5 million per season, to sign a free agent.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...vic/index.html
That means Lin would count for a little more than $8 million each year on Houston’s cap, even though he’d be paid less than that in each of the first two seasons and more than that in the third year.
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/0...-felton-trade/
NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm
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07-16-2012, 12:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Stats...stats...stats....Felton is a cancer, I don't care what numbers he puts up. Why do you think he keeps getting moved?
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That maybe true, but the Knicks have had him before, so they know what they are getting. Clearly they think they can live this cancer. I would rather have Lin, but it is not my money.
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07-16-2012, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
The Knicks are clueless. I'm not sure if Lin was worth the offer Houston made, he probably isn't. But Raymond Felton? Seriously?
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Besides picking up Lin , I am trying to think of a good move that the Knicks have made. Mello is overrated. Felton? Can't believe it.
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Last edited by maddog42; 07-16-2012 at 04:46 PM.
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07-16-2012, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by maddog42
Besides picking up Lin , I am trying to think of a good move that the Knicks have made. Mello is overrated. Felton? Can't believe it.
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They signed a thirty nine year old point guard who shot 36% from the field. It only dipped to 34% against OKC. A short length contract of three years to boot.
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07-16-2012, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
They signed a thirty nine year old point guard who shot 36% from the field. It only dipped to 34% against OKC. A short length contract of three years to boot.
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It certainly doesn't make them look like geniuses, but it might have been one of the BETTER moves they have made. 3 years? He might not be alive in 3 years, based on the last 72 hours. Kidd,39, thomas 40. Camby?(real old). I forgot Chandler, but at least he is a great defender. They have got to be the oldest team in the league.
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07-16-2012, 08:08 PM
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Knicks must sign Lin. They can determine his value and either pay the penalty in the 3rd year or look to trade him if necessary.
Toronto would take him in a heartbeat. Let's face it, they earned the right to determine his true value. Don't become a cheapstake over this.
Now if he's only worth say 5 million send him packing for someone's reject along with cash and save the penalty.
But if he's a diamond in the rough the Knicks would be tortured by the press and the fans for being shortsighted and cheap.
There's a lot less risk than the contract implies. That's what managers do. Manage the risk and gain the reward.
Keep Lin.
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07-16-2012, 09:12 PM
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I also heard that Knicks owner feels slighted by Lin for taking the Rocket's offer. I think Lin is smart -- $25 million over 3 years. That's a good capitalist move.
Hey Dolan -- you're a billionaire capitalist -- show him the money!
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