I need to take a math class re SA pick 6

[Stillriledup]

Help me out here guys, i must be doing something wrong but i'm not sure what.

Here's the situation.

Heading into SA's last race today, the total 'giveback' of the pick 6 was about 60 grand. The total pool was 114k.

The winning horse, who went off as the favorite was paying about 3300 for 2. There was a late scratch in the race of the 5 horse. The 5 horse's probable payout before the scratch was 20k, which leads me to believe there were 3 'alive' tickets on this runner. So, when she scratches, her 3 tickets get transferred to the betting favorite, which ended up winning the race.

THe winning pick 6 paid 2,100 for 2.

It seemed that before the scratch, the winning horse had approximately 18 alive tickets on her, with the scratch, you add 3 more making the total 21. With 21 winners and about 60k giveback, the winning price should be approx 2,800 and not 2,100.

Can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong mathwise? I know there must be a simple explanation, i just can't see what it is.

[Southieboy]

How are they still in business?

[chickenhead]

If the favorite ultimately paid $2100, and the scratched horse would have paid $20K....the fav was paying $2300 pre-scratch, not $3300. Maybe you just saw that number wrong.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by chickenhead

If the favorite ultimately paid $2100, and the scratched horse would have paid $20K....the fav was paying $2300 pre-scratch, not $3300. Maybe you just saw that number wrong.

No, it was over 3 grand. The same thing happened in the pick 6 on March 27 at SA when the favorite in the last race, who was paying 25k before the scratch went all the way down to 16,800 after some hopeless longshot got scratched at the gate.

[chickenhead]

its a mystery then...the math and the rules are pretty straightforward.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by chickenhead

its a mystery then...the math and the rules are pretty straightforward.

There's gotta be an answer, hopefully its not past posting.

[Mineshaft]

Total pool was 114K and payout was 60K. So takeout is almost 50%?

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Mineshaft

Total pool was 114K and payout was 60K. So takeout is almost 50%?

25% go to consos. So, after takeout, which is what, 23%?, the remaining money gets divided 75/25.

[Mineshaft]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

25% go to consos. So, after takeout, which is what, 23%?, the remaining money gets divided 75/25.

conso?

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Mineshaft

conso?

Yeah, they always pay off on 5 of 6 whether someone hits it or not. So, there's the winning payoff and a conso. Maybe conso isnt the right word, but that's the word i use....kind of like a consolation prize if you have ALMOST picked 6.

[Mineshaft]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Yeah, they always pay off on 5 of 6 whether someone hits it or not. So, there's the winning payoff and a conso. Maybe conso isnt the right word, but that's the word i use....kind of like a consolation prize if you have ALMOST picked 6.

Ok i got it i guess SA is the only track that does this or do they all do it? I dont play Pick 6 so thats why im asking.


Thats weird a consolation and a winning payoff.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Mineshaft

Ok i got it i guess SA is the only track that does this or do they all do it? I dont play Pick 6 so thats why im asking.


Thats weird a consolation and a winning payoff.

I'm pretty sure most pick 6 tracks do this.

This is why if you actually hit the pick 6 on a huge ticket, you make out like a bandit because you get the actual payoff and a whole bunch of consos.

[rwwupl]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

There's gotta be an answer, hopefully its not past posting.

I will have it checked out by the CHRB... When they respond I will pass it on to you.

rw

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by rwwupl

I will have it checked out by the CHRB... When they respond I will pass it on to you.

rw

Thanks.

Total Pool was 114k.

Total comeback was about 60k for the winners.

Winning favorite was paying about 3300 give or take according to the payouts listed on the santa anita feed.

Horse that was scratched was paying 20k, so she had 3 alive tickets.

My math had the payoff going from 3300 to approx 2800 when you add 3 tickets to the winning horse.

Pick 6 paid 2100.

Thanks Rog.

(this same thing happened in the March 27th pick 6 at SA, where a longshot got scratched late and the favorite's price went from 25,000 to 16,800)

[HuggingTheRail]

In the first leg, race 3, the 4 was scratched and the favoured 5 won

Maybe the $3300 posted was only based on that 5 horse, they hadn't factored in the payouts due to the tickets with that 4 horse??