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04-13-2011, 11:24 PM
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The Factor = The Favorite?
http://www.drf.com/news/churchill-do...derby-favorite
This seems really questionable to me. Win at longer than 8.5 furlongs this weekend and maybe I will change my tune, but my feelings about The Factor are summed up in the oft-used phrase, "Others seem more likely." We know he can run fast, but based on his running style, are we expecting him to wire the field?
I like Baffert and Garcia, but I just don't think The Factor has proven enough yet for me to consider him the Derby favorite.
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04-14-2011, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by keithw84
http://www.drf.com/news/churchill-do...derby-favorite
This seems really questionable to me. Win at longer than 8.5 furlongs this weekend and maybe I will change my tune, but my feelings about The Factor are summed up in the oft-used phrase, "Others seem more likely." We know he can run fast, but based on his running style, are we expecting him to wire the field?
I like Baffert and Garcia, but I just don't think The Factor has proven enough yet for me to consider him the Derby favorite.
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You can see his reasoning at least Beyer wise, I still think Dialed In will be the post time favorite because of running style, distance and previous Churchill win.
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04-14-2011, 12:53 AM
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This country is due for a kick-ass front runner...it's been such a long time since Holy Bull.
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04-14-2011, 01:00 AM
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2 outta 3 aint bad
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Originally Posted by redshift1
You can see his reasoning at least Beyer wise, I still think Dialed In will be the post time favorite because of running style, distance and previous Churchill win.
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Dialed In = Ice Box II or Ice Box too...............? 
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04-14-2011, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
This country is due for a kick-ass front runner...it's been such a long time since Holy Bull.
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Let's hope he smokes em and OReilly talks about the Derby every night for the next 4 weeks.
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04-14-2011, 01:23 AM
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He's going to have to earn it this time as Dance City is pretty quick also.
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04-14-2011, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MNslappy
Let's hope he smokes em and OReilly talks about the Derby every night for the next 4 weeks.
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That is why he will be the favorite.
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04-14-2011, 11:20 AM
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If he gets it done, he'll have three graded stakes preps to his credit going into Kentucky. I would like to see him rate in this spot, but he may be too quick. This looks like Rebel Stakes round 2, with more authority.
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04-14-2011, 01:32 PM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Originally Posted by KingChas
Dialed In = Ice Box II or Ice Box too...............? |
More like Ice Box - 2. -2 what is up to you to decide....
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04-14-2011, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
This country is due for a kick-ass front runner...it's been such a long time since Holy Bull.
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...let's hope he doesn't sit down in the gate
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04-14-2011, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MNslappy
Let's hope he smokes em and OReilly talks about the Derby every night for the next 4 weeks.
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I'll double that ...I'm going to be rooting for him....love this colt. What kinda gives me a scare is PVal on Sway Away!
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04-14-2011, 03:59 PM
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hard spun was pretty kick ass, he was just born the absolute wrong year.
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04-14-2011, 04:13 PM
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Indeed... I miss that horse!
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04-14-2011, 04:58 PM
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Maybe Elite Alex can get the inside trip this time
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04-14-2011, 08:33 PM
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I was one of the first on the elite alex bandwagon, i am drinking friends with a trainers son here and he has been boasting about this horse since december... and even I am saying now I just don't see all the love.
He's just not fast enough.
should be very tough n the queens plate though
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