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04-10-2011, 12:08 AM
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Racing Form Detective
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Do $100 winners ever repeat?
I was considering betting a horse today when I noticed the race it won 3 races back, it had 67-1 odds. It didn't win today. It got me to thinking. I can't recall a $100 horse ever winning its next race and for that matter ever winning again. The most famous $100 horse, Mind That Bird never won again. I wonder if it as rare for one to win again as I think it is.
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04-10-2011, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
I was considering betting a horse today when I noticed the race it won 3 races back, it had 67-1 odds. It didn't win today. It got me to thinking. I can't recall a $100 horse ever winning its next race and for that matter ever winning again. The most famous $100 horse, Mind That Bird never won again. I wonder if it as rare for one to win again as I think it is.
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On November 29,2009 Indy Froum won at 61/1 then came back on December 30 and won and went off at 15/1 and won again.I remember,because i had him on Dec 30.
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04-10-2011, 04:32 AM
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Location: Houston Tx.
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Donerail won the derby in 1913 at 91/1 and won some races after the derby.
Giacomo won the derby at 50/1 and then won only one more race.
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04-10-2011, 05:03 AM
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Location: New York
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Arcangues came back and won his next start after the Breeders' Cup..
Frisk Me Now won at over 100-1 and went on to win multiple grades stakes after..
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04-10-2011, 08:26 AM
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It is memorable to cash a $100+ winner. There were three that I hit: Jean Baby, a maiden winner with consistent workouts at Aqueduct; Salt Lake (the first by this name - there is a recent Salt Lake, but mine goes back to late 60's) and Temperence Hill in Belmont Stakes.
Don't know if any of above won again. Temperance Hill is the most recent.
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04-10-2011, 10:52 PM
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AllAboutTheROE
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Denver
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I just looked up 74 horses that won & paid $100 or more (think it was all races back to Dec 1, 2010, but I forget my original sample). Some of these horses have not run back & some have run back a number of times.
If you followed them for their first three races after the triple digit win, here's what you'd get:
1 Race After: 62 races, 2 winners, odds of 9.3 & 11.7
2 Races After: 108 races, 3 winners, odds of 22.40 & above
3 Races After: 137 races, 5 winners odds of 18.1, 13.1 & above.
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04-14-2011, 06:27 AM
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I remember, very fondly, an odd bird named "Make Room for Zoom".
paid 87, 40, lost, 24. I got on this horse because he ran 19 and change TT on a return, and was dropping in class. Rode him all the way.
nice horse that.
tlt-
I have noted high priced maidens winning back to back, and not that infrequently.
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04-14-2011, 08:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Midway, Ky.
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Joe's Blazing Aaron won at GP on 2/17 this year at 73.30/1 won again on 3/12 at 11.70/1. Next stop the Blue Grass..
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04-14-2011, 02:29 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
I was considering betting a horse today when I noticed the race it won 3 races back, it had 67-1 odds. It didn't win today. It got me to thinking. I can't recall a $100 horse ever winning its next race and for that matter ever winning again. The most famous $100 horse, Mind That Bird never won again. I wonder if it as rare for one to win again as I think it is.
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There was a gelding I remember from 20+ years ago named Northern Provider. He had issues and breaks in his career, but when he did run and win, he was one who returned triple digits at least twice I can remember, and missed a third triple digit win by an eyelash, against a real nice Whittingham horse named Nasr El Arab.
Repeating back to back, I don't know. Winning again, sure.
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