Dave Schwartz is Excited Again! NewPace is Coming

[Dave Schwartz]

Yes, I am!
Early or Late: Unlocking the Mystery of Pace.

You may remember a couple of months ago when I spoke of a new approach to pace that I had been working which I was calling (logically) NewPace.

I am working on what I call "New Pace." Like the form stuff it is very new. However, unlike the form stuff, it had its origins in Jim Cramer's work.

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I really can't [comment on how it works]. It is too premature. I will just say that it is very different than what could be called "Sartinian Pace."

I am probably 6 months away from adding the one missing ingredient. Still searching for it.

Sartinian pace was founded on the principle of EP-SP-W. Modeling of these and other factors is considered a cornerstone of pace handicapping today.

I have discovered that the absolute least important thing in pace handicapping is EP. It is so insignificant that it can be ignored completely.

I think you will agree that this is a provocative statement.

If I can back that up with proof (I can but not until the rest is complete) then I'd call this important. Wouldn't you?


As I have said, I am missing one key ingredient... an element of predictability. I can do it in my software to about 80% of my satisfaction level but it is very complicated. It is no where near ready for the kind of break through technologies I release.

The next step was for me to suggest a private viewing of what I was working on with several trusted members of this forum:

This stuff is so obvious when you see it that you will:

1. First, say, "That can't be so."
2. Second, say, "Wow! That's unbelievable."

In fact, let's just move on with this... I hereby officially invite Fox, Tom and Max and PA to a short (like 15 minute) online meeting to look at this stuff.

Then we had our meeting - which went more like an hour. A description of that meeting can be found in this (incorrectly titled) thread: Mystery of Form


The first post from that thread:

All,
Tonight, I had the pleasure of attending an interesting, thought provoking seminar presented by Dave Schwartz. Without revealing the topic, that will be presented in it's entirety at a later date, I can only tell you that what Dave has found in his research will certainly delete one of the handicapping's "Sacred Cows." Being of the mind set to utilize his new found information, Dave is working on how to use that information in one's handicapping approach. It should be quite interesting to say the least!!
We were assured that this is not a ploy to buy HSH but to be able to use
his new found nugget in one's handicapping no matter what approach you are using. More information will be forthcoming!!!
Maxspa

[Dave Schwartz]

So, here we are, about 60 days later and I have found that "missing ingredient!"

The missing ingredient I spoke of...
The "missing ingredient" that I was referring to was a method for someone without any pace figures in front of them to determine who was likely to go to the front today with a high degree of certainty.


Ever agonized over which paceline to select for a horse?
Just so that we are clear - THERE IS NO PACELINE SELECTION NECESSARY to use NewPace. It will, however, integrate nicely with your other pace approach if you have one. I'll even show you how to do it.


Ever struggled with contender selection?
NewPace does not use a "contender selection process, per se. Instead, the process guides you through:

• Who is going to the front
• Which of those front runners are likely to quit
• Which horses will be charging at them coming down the lane

Ever struggled with who you should finally bet?
NewPace includes several powerful wagering strategies for making your final wagering decision.



Stay tuned for more information about release dates, prices, etc.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Ever struggled with contender selection?
NewPace does not use a "contender selection process, per se. Instead, the process guides you through:

• Who is going to the front
• Which of those front runners are likely to quit
• Which horses will be charging at them coming down the lane

.

The late William L. Scott ( a pen name) had a method wherein you could answer those questions without pace line selection. He published it in his book
Total Victory at the Track. However, it was very laborious.

[Tom]

This one will be worth the wait.
I have already integrated nuggets of it from our preview and I am very happy with the results. I can definitely separate the early horses a lot more often than before, using no early pace numbers at all, and I can predict when a previously obvious pace duel will not materialize more often than before.

[Charlie D]

The missing ingredient I spoke of...
The "missing ingredient" that I was referring to was a method for someone without any pace figures in front of them to determine who was likely to go to the front today with a high degree of certainty.

Bradshaws Match Up does this

Ever agonized over which paceline to select for a horse?
Just so that we are clear - THERE IS NO PACELINE SELECTION NECESSARY to use NewPace. It will, however, integrate nicely with your other pace approach if you have one. I'll even show you how to do it.

There is no Pace line selection necessary in Bradshaws Match Up, in fact, he tells you to "look at ALL lines"

Ever struggled with contender selection?
NewPace does not use a "contender selection process, per se. Instead, the process guides you through:

• Who is going to the front
• Which of those front runners are likely to quit
• Which horses will be charging at them coming down the lane

This methodology is used in Sartin, Brohamer, Bradshaw etc methodologys

Ever struggled with who you should finally bet?
NewPace includes several powerful wagering strategies for making your final wagering decision.

Not quite sure what you mean here, but if you follow the instructions given by those previously mentioned your final wagering decisions are sorted.


So, considering this, i'd conclude your methodolgy is not really NEW, but just a recipe being mixed differently, just like loads of others out there.

[Tom]

It is new.

[Charlie D]

Don't think i have made any false statements in my last post, so what i stated stands.

[Tom]

Considering you know nothing of what he is doing, I'll buy that.

[Charlie D]

Originally Posted by Tom

Considering you know nothing of what he is doing, I'll buy that.

Considering i read the posts by Dave i know a bit more than nothing




I may not be as well eductated as some, but i can actually tell the difference between a cow and a pig and if that were the case here i would say so instead of stating what i did earlier.


Now, thats the end of this particular game of ping pong for me and i wish you and Dave all the best in your endenvours.

[Gapfire]

Originally Posted by Charlie D

i wish you and Dave all the best in your endenvours.

Seriously though, I think this sounds like it should be a very interesting product.

[Tom]

It is. Despite rumors to the contrary.

[mrroyboy]

Hope it's cheaper than most of Dave's other products.

[Tom]

You get what you pay for.
If you win using it, it is free.

[teddy]

Originally Posted by Charlie D

Don't think i have made any false statements in my last post, so what i stated stands.

I cant wait to see the posted picks!

[teddy]

[QUOTE=Charlie D]Considering i read the posts by Dave i know a bit more than nothing




I may not be as well eductated as some, but i can actually tell the difference between a cow and a pig and if that were the case here i would say so instead of stating what i did earlier.


Now, thats the end of this particular game of ping pong for me and i wish you and Dave all the best in your endenvours.[/QUOTE

omg, I was thinking the same thing...