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12-17-2009, 01:21 PM
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2 year olds get rollin'...
1Lookin At LuckyGomez G K2Brady Blue EyesTalamo J3The ProgramEspinoza V4MarcelloValdivia J Jr5Make Music for MeSmith M E6Noble's PromiseAlbarado R J7Seattle RulerGarcia M8Wildlee SpecialSolis A
I guess we can start looking at the 2 year olds...and the Cash Cakk is as good a place as any.
Looks to be a very good race. Just for the fun of it...my picks:
Lookin at Lucky
Noble's Promise
The Program
Wildlee Special
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12-17-2009, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by joanied
1Lookin At LuckyGomez G K2Brady Blue EyesTalamo J3The ProgramEspinoza V4MarcelloValdivia J Jr5Make Music for MeSmith M E6Noble's PromiseAlbarado R J7Seattle RulerGarcia M8Wildlee SpecialSolis A
I guess we can start looking at the 2 year olds...and the Cash Cakk is as good a place as any.
Looks to be a very good race. Just for the fun of it...my picks:
Lookin at Lucky
Noble's Promise
The Program
Wildlee Special
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if you want to see anice 2 yo, check out wildcat frankie, last saturday's 6th at calder. he got plenty more in the tank too
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12-17-2009, 03:26 PM
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I hope Baffert brings Lookin at Lucky to New York for the Wood Memorial.
He's going to need a start on dirt sooner or later and Baffert loves bringing his best horses to the biggest stage. The Mike Pegram silks have a great history.
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12-17-2009, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MickJ26
I hope Baffert brings Lookin at Lucky to New York for the Wood Memorial.
He's going to need a start on dirt sooner or later and Baffert loves bringing his best horses to the biggest stage. The Mike Pegram silks have a great history.
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When he used to have multiple Derby prospects (and it looks like that way again this year), Baffert used to invade the Fair Grounds. I would anticipate one of his top horses showing up there.
Recently, with lesser types, he's shipped to Sunland Park and Lone Star.
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12-17-2009, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
if you want to see anice 2 yo, check out wildcat frankie, last saturday's 6th at calder. he got plenty more in the tank too
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He might be a good one the rest of that field were just horses. Let's see what he does vs winners. Hatchett may have a live one you never know!
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12-17-2009, 06:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MickJ26
I hope Baffert brings Lookin at Lucky to New York for the Wood Memorial.
He's going to need a start on dirt sooner or later and Baffert loves bringing his best horses to the biggest stage. The Mike Pegram silks have a great history.
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Me too and I'd bet 2-1 that he will...man, I would just love seeing Baffert & Pegram back on the TC Trail again...with a Derby winner...the sparks will fly and everyone will be having fun
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Last edited by joanied; 12-17-2009 at 06:56 PM.
Reason: typo
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12-17-2009, 11:02 PM
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Two colts: Walking the Beach and Maximus Ruler...runners for sure.
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12-17-2009, 11:30 PM
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this is turning out to be a good year. I have my eye on a couple. Nordic Truce, Carrington Villiage, walking the beach, wildcat frankie, the afleet alex that won at aqu not too long ago, can't remember his name, the gray baffert horse looks like a freak.
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12-18-2009, 02:59 AM
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the afleet alex that won at aqu not too long ago, can't remember his name, the gray baffert horse looks like a freak.
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Afleet Express?
Baffert has another gray, an Indian Charlie colt named CONVEYANCE . 2 starts, 2 wins.
http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbH...741®istry=T
I mostly like several from the Champagne Stakes. Super Saver, Discreetly Mine. I also still like my Aikenite.
list is very long. But--- my hunch is that the Derby winner has already run at least a 1 mile race.
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12-18-2009, 07:21 PM
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Afleet Express?
Baffert has another gray, an Indian Charlie colt named CONVEYANCE . 2 starts, 2 wins.
http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbH...741®istry=T
I mostly like several from the Champagne Stakes. Super Saver, Discreetly Mine. I also still like my Aikenite.
list is very long. But--- my hunch is that the Derby winner has already run at least a 1 mile race.
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it is Afleet Express....and I read somewhere that Baffert is quite high on Conveyance...I also will be watching the others you mentioned, Winter T...all can be really good...good list, girl.
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12-18-2009, 07:42 PM
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one thing positive about afleet express is that he was on conventional and beat a much tougher field than wildcat frankie. wildcat frankie did run about the best race i have ever seen a first time starter run though. also frankie is a gelding so probably he won't be sold due to not residual value for him. if he had equipment he would sell for over $1million.
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12-18-2009, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by joanied
it is Afleet Express....and I read somewhere that Baffert is quite high on Conveyance...I also will be watching the others you mentioned, Winter T...all can be really good...good list, girl.
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yes and yes. conveyance looks like the real deal, i dont' see how he doesn't get 2 turns with that pedigree.
I'm convinced that's why baffert isn't really pushing him that hard now.
if i were a betting man for the first saturday in may, i'd place a bet on him efore lookin at lucky
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12-18-2009, 08:10 PM
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my opinion of conveyance is that he ran good with not much behind him either. baffert going to have has work cut out for him to go further down the road, i like the afleet alex chances for him better. one thing about baffert is, he got experience and that goes miles when it comes down to winning these early races. personally i think baffert is as good as anyone, in my mind he over=achieved with pioneer of the nile last year, and has done that kind of work in the past.
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12-18-2009, 08:40 PM
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my opinion of conveyance is that he ran good with not much behind him either. baffert going to have has work cut out for him to go further down the road, i like the afleet alex chances for him better. one thing about baffert is, he got experience and that goes miles when it comes down to winning these early races. personally i think baffert is as good as anyone, in my mind he over=achieved with pioneer of the nile last year, and has done that kind of work in the past.
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the interal fractions of that race say otherwise.
22.20, 44.83, 56.65, 1:09.00 is racehorse time
and to use the zenyatta line it's the WAY he did. he was not shortining stride in his last furlong.
I dont' think he overachieved with POTN as much as he spotted him pitcure perfectly. he got the absolute most he could have possibly gotten out of that horse.
a horse that does not like dirt wins 2 main track grade 1's and comes in 2nd in the derby
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12-18-2009, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by toussaud
the interal fractions of that race say otherwise.
22.20, 44.83, 56.65, 1:09.00 is racehorse time
and to use the zenyatta line it's the WAY he did. he was not shortining stride in his last furlong.
I dont' think he overachieved with POTN as much as he spotted him pitcure perfectly. he got the absolute most he could have possibly gotten out of that horse.
a horse that does not like dirt wins 2 main track grade 1's and comes in 2nd in the derby
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i admit he was amazing with pioneer of the nile, but pioneer ran against much better when he had his campagn. CONVEYANCE might be the horse of the century, but he is running in california. maybe we will see him someplace else at a later date, and maybe baffert pulls off another miracle which he is quite capable of, but if i was betting derby futures i woulld have to leave that horse out for the time being
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