Letterman is CREEPY

[Show Me the Wire]

I agree with Imus, Letterman is creepy. Letterman’s pseudo-intellectual audience is creepy.

The man is confessing he committed terrible deeds, sexual harassment and infidelity, and the audience laughs and applauds the terrible deeds. The audience demonstrates inappropriate behavior throughout the whole confession. The creepy audience laughs and applauds about acts of physical, mental and emotional injury heaped upon Letterman’s subordinates, as well as, the mental and emotional anguish inflicted on his family.

I never believed the propaganda about lLetterman’s audience being sophisticated and hip. His audience last night proved they are just creepy, like the sexual harassing host.

[ddog]

That's way over your and IMus head it seems.

The perfectly logical response in that situation is nervous laughter/silence/some thinking it may be a gag of some type.

In that audience do you expect them to run up on stage and give him a hug or a reproach.

You really need to bone up on your crowd/mob dynamics.


The "audience" has a certain role, i am shocked you seem so puzzled and seek to draw such cosmic blather from that situation.

I really am.

Until/if he is charged it's not SH.

[Show Me the Wire]

It was the applause that pushed it into creepy. Nervous laughter I understand. I watched last night and there was genuine laughter (laugh track?) and applause, along with some nervous laughter.

Creepy as can be.

[ddog]

I am saying, there was an expected response before they showed up.

Yeah, some maybe got a kick out of thinking about a degraded woman, I don't think he has a lock on that audience though.

A comic without "edge" or a little creepy is one I sure want to avoid.
I am not a Letterman fan. The only time I see him is on Youtube that is sent to me. These MSM comics don't do much for me, never have.

I didn't see the whole deal, but applause could have been affirming him coming out with it , being honest about it in front of the audience.

Essentially bringing the audience to the "inside with him".


Comic - tragic.

[Rookies]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

I agree with Imus,

LMFAO ! Imus ? He's the poster boy for CREEPY. His weird pic is set beside the definition in Wikepedia/Encarta!

As for Letterman, he screwed up. Did he screw up before he got married? Time will tell. But, he wasn't a Catholic Bishop downloading child porn or a Republican I'm a hoe Senator trolling for little boys in washroom stalls or a perverted film maker raping underage little girls. It was consensual sex between adults. End of story... at least before he faces the music with the Mrs.

Colin Cowherd today said it was an incredibly savvy performance to out it himself, before the store was broken on him.

As for the audience ? They had no clue that it wasn't part of his schtick. I suppose that accounts for the laughter. For the record, I rarely watch Letterman.

[rastajenk]

Aye yi yi, circle the date, I think I agree with the dog for once. I didn't see it live, have seen some clips on the news today and embedded in some blogs, and I don't think the audience knew what to do. They were put in a tough spot, kind of like an Andy Kaufman bit: is this real...what the hell is going on?

They're certainly not as creepy as some of Polanski apologists that have been seeking some headlines.

That's about all I got.

[Show Me the Wire]

Rookies:

So it is okay to justify bad behavior by pointing out bad behavior of another sort?

Sexual harrasment has nothing to do with marital status or religion. It is about denigrating women in the workplace and violating a standard contractual clause in CBS' contracts.

The audience applauding for that creepy behavior is creepy.

[cj's dad]

Isn't it amazing how doggie boy can always and I mean always educate we mere mortals into thinking that what seems so effin easy to grasp is in fact deep intellectual analysis.

Thank you so much Doggie for your insight into Letterman's late night audience!!

[Rookies]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

Rookies:

So it is okay to justify bad behavior by pointing out bad behavior of another sort?

There's not even close to any moral relativism here between Letterman and these other cretins, but you know that. One was an inappropriate behavious, the others are crimes... two of which are very, very serious crimes.

Sexual harrasment has nothing to do with marital status or religion. It is about denigrating women in the workplace and violating a standard contractual clause in CBS' contracts.

On this point, I agree. Anyone with a power relationship should not be engaging in sex, even with consensual adults. Happens in thousands of work places however. Wasn't smart, but I've already said that.

The audience applauding for that creepy behavior is creepy.

It's odd, but they got feinted out on this incident. Didn't know what to do. Again, I wouldn't lead your argument with one of the all time creepy persons.

[Show Me the Wire]

ddog and Rookies have a valid point about the audience being not being sure I think any intellectual person like Letterman would have foreseen, this particular announcement couched in comedic vein, the dicey position this would cause for the audience.

If someone had common sense, there would have been an announcement prior to Letterman's disclosure about the confession's serious nature. Also, the timing is suspect. He disclosed his sexual demeaning of women co-workers' after his monologue.

I proffer the lack of announcement, the timing of the disclosure and the comedic tone of the confession's delivery had been designed to take advantage his audiences' creepiness.

BTW Rookies you made the moral relativism comparison, not me. And you bring it up again by distinguishing inappropriate behaviours from iegally defined crimes.

[Greyfox]

Social pressure does strange things to audiences or individuals in groups.
The way Letterman presented it was "as if" a funny story was coming.
After all that is what they were expecting.
My guess is that after, several were kicking themselves for not standing up and walking out.
In the rearview mirror, we all have situations in life where we wish that we had stood up against the group mind.

[Rookies]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

BTW Rookies you made the moral relativism comparison, not me. And you bring it up again by distinguishing inappropriate behaviours from iegally defined crimes.

Of course, because I think that Letterman's situation is so far down the moral continuum from the other recent events. FYI, this one happened yesterday in Canada simultaneously to Letterman's announcement:
A prominent Roman Catholic bishop praised for his compassion and humanity in dealing with victims of sexual abuse in Nova Scotia now faces charges related to child pornography.


In August, Bishop Raymond Lahey, head of the Diocese of Antigonish, concluded an historic $15-million settlement with parishioners who had been sexually abused as children. On Saturday, he suddenly resigned his position, citing only the need to take time for “personal renewal.”

Read more: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/holy-post/archive/2009/10/01/catholic-bishop-who-resigned-faces-child-porn-charges.aspx##ixzz0SpcJOSVa

Disgusting and a 7th ring in Hades should await him.

So I wonder, other than the usual prurient interest with the entertainment / sports world, why the keen interest in Letterman's issue ?

[LottaKash]

Originally Posted by Rookies

Of course, because I think that Letterman's situation is so far down the moral continuum from the other recent events. FYI, this one happened yesterday in Canada simultaneously to Letterman's announcement:
A prominent Roman Catholic bishop praised for his compassion and humanity in dealing with victims of sexual abuse in Nova Scotia now faces charges related to child pornography.


In August, Bishop Raymond Lahey, head of the Diocese of Antigonish, concluded an historic $15-million settlement with parishioners who had been sexually abused as children. On Saturday, he suddenly resigned his position, citing only the need to take time for “personal renewal.”

Read more: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/holy-post/archive/2009/10/01/catholic-bishop-who-resigned-faces-child-porn-charges.aspx##ixzz0SpcJOSVa

Disgusting and a 7th ring in Hades should await him.

So I wonder, other than the usual prurient interest with the entertainment / sports world, why the keen interest in Letterman's issue ?

How about discussing, one disgusting thing at a time....

[Show Me the Wire]

So what. What does your posting do besides deflect the issue regarding the method Letterman used to disclose his sexual abusive behavior of women employees?

You are justifing demeaning behavior towards women by an intellectual person, Letterman, because other people do terrible deeds too.

Am I calling for his head? No. Am I defending Polanski or the Canadian Bishop?No. Their terrible deeds are irrelevant to Letterman's terrible deeds unless you are trying to excuse Letterman's sexually abusive behavior.

Besides my original point was his audience re-acted even creepier. The applauding was disgusting.

[Rookies]

You know I'm not. But, one is way, way less significant than the others. The others did terrible things, Letterman didn't. He did stupid things, which his now wife needs to absolve him and CBS needs to consider whether he violated any policy.

Again, the audience whiffed. They weren't expecting his tale.