Bravo FDA!

[46zilzal]

A step in the right direction in new federal DRUG guidelines to moderate a drug in what Dr. Jeffrey Wigan (main character in the movie The Insider) called a "nicotine delivery device" a.k.a. a cigarette. Long ago physiologists understood the medical effects of nicotine when discovering how it worked in the sympathetic nervous system with both nicotinic and mucarinic adrenergic nervous receptors.

Having to watch a person slowly fall apart and die as a direct result of this crap and all the attendant chemical poisons added to make it burn faster and have a fancy fragrance makes one stop and think about just how widespread this un-regulated DRUG is in the population.

About time and I hope it is a step that will be strengthened over time to make these 'cancer sticks' even harder to attain.

[rastajenk]

Breaking News: Zilzal celebrates another erosion of liberty.

[dvlander]

This is a first but I agree 100% with 46zilzal. The tobaccco industry has received a free lunch from the Feds for way too long.

I cringe every time I see a teenage girl smoking and this is one of the only times I like to see government protect idiots from themselves.

Dale

[Tom]

If it is a dangerous product, outlaw it all together. They do it for pot, heroine, etc.

If it is not, then get the hell out of it's business.

Ciggy taxes are paying for child health care and Obama must be opposed to child health care by attacking the source of their funding.

Obama is against children.

[Lefty]

yes, just what we need, the govt protecting us from ourselves. Information about how bad this product is, has been out there for years. If people choose to smoke, so be it. Hey, fat people need help too. Let's tax fatty foods, and sugar. Oh, that's started already. And what can the govt do for YOU, to protect you from yourself. It's coming...

[46zilzal]

My master's thesis was in toxicology and it is well known how toxic nicotine is.
http://www.nicotinevictims.com/poison.htm

[Tom]

Wasn't one of Hitler's goals to create a master race?
Where doses this end?
First, cigarettes, then what, booze?
Fatty foods, candy, cakes, cookies, mandatory exercise?
Hey, you softball players are getting hurt, costing the health care system, no more softball.

Where do we end it?

If our goal is a healthier population, should we stop at targeting the +/- 5 and 6 sigma groups? Should we target the +/- 1/2 sigma groups as the only ones we support?

Do we legislate you body mass index, your weight, your lung capacity?


This is not the government's business.

[jballscalls]

people know cigarettes are bad, if they want to smoke them thats fine. the only time i think government should be involved is policing that people don't smoke inside where it can directly effect others, especially employees of establishments.

Each state i've worked in has smoking bans inside and everyone, even most smokers i talk to are happy with it.

[Warren Henry]

If it makes sense for the government to protect the smokers from themselves, why not have the government protect the problem gamblers from themselves too.

Whatever happened to individual responsibility?

[jballscalls]

Originally Posted by Warren Henry

If it makes sense for the government to protect the smokers from themselves, why not have the government protect the problem gamblers from themselves too.

Whatever happened to individual responsibility?

actually in Oregon the government does pay for Problem Gambling treatment and rehab. They say it's free because "you've already paid" by losing LOL

[BombsAway Bob]

Originally Posted by Tom

If it is a dangerous product, outlaw it all together.
They do it for pot, heroine, etc.
If it is not, then get the hell out of it's business.
Ciggy taxes are paying for child health care and Obama must be opposed to child health care by attacking the source of their funding.
Obama is against children.

Let's Review: Deaths from Alcohol (Legal)??
Deaths from Tobacco (Legal)??
Deaths from Donuts (Legal) ??
Deaths from Heroin (Illegal) ??
Deaths from "Pot" (Illegal, Decriminalized) ??
As an Indecratarian, I find it offensive that The Govt. is now officially "Big Brother".
A 15-year-old smoking a cig.."Tsk,Tsk".. Same 15YO with a Beer.. "Call the cops"
Minors shouldn't Drink Alcohol,Smoke Tobacco,or Experiment with drugs. Period.
Information on all 'vices' are now easily available~let Adults decide! Free America!

[Warren Henry]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

My master's thesis was in toxicology and it is well known how toxic nicotine is.
http://www.nicotinevictims.com/poison.htm

So, we know about the toxicity of nicotine. How about the effects of alcohol? ETC.

It is also well known that problem gamblers can destroy the lives of their families.

The question is whether or not it is the business of the government to regulate these activities to protect us from ourselves.

Or, was your point to further impress us with your education/experience?

[46zilzal]

http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nico...ngredients.htm

an astounding list provided by the manufacturers of just what is in them.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

My master's thesis was in toxicology and it is well known how toxic nicotine is.
http://www.nicotinevictims.com/poison.htm

Tell it to the Marxists in D.C. Get them to outlaw tobacco, since these two-bit tyrants claim they're so interested in protecting the public health. If they are, why don't they just outlaw it once and for all? Funny how you champion the money-hungry hypocritical feds and you can never see how they're worse than even the capitalists you despise. There are none so blind who will not see!

Boxcar

[46zilzal]

Cigarette smoking kills about 400,000 people in the United States every
year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention