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Old 06-06-2009, 07:09 PM   #1
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Borel Blew It

Just my opinion but I think Borel rode with to much confidance today letting his horse run much closer to the pace then before,Race riding and scrubbing with still a quarter mile to go blew the wind out of MTB sails,Dont blame Woodley for being pissed,Got a countryboy ride today..
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:12 PM   #2
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Just my opinion but I think Borel rode with to much confidance today letting his horse run much closer to the pace then before,Race riding and scrubbing with still a quarter mile to go blew the wind out of MTB sails,Dont blame Woodley for being pissed,Got a countryboy ride today..
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:13 PM   #3
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You must have not read my comment on another post. I said that when you are riding the favorite (and best horse on paper going in) you can never move too soon, you can only move too late. Calvin rode well, he just lost to a better animal on this day. Stuff happens.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:15 PM   #4
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You must have not read my comment on another post. I said that when you are riding the favorite (and best horse on paper going in) you can never move too soon, you can only move too late. Calvin rode well, he just lost to a better animal on this day. Stuff happens.
I agree. What was up with Dunkirk on the lead?
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:16 PM   #5
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You must have not read my comment on another post. I said that when you are riding the favorite (and best horse on paper going in) you can never move too soon, you can only move too late.
or he read it and laughed. can't rule out that possibility.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:19 PM   #6
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Looked as if Calvin really wanted to wait longer but Bird was tugging at him to go and instead of fighting him he let him run . KD was in a simular situation with BB last year , to a greater extent , and the results were much worse . Just an opinion .
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:19 PM   #7
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I don't think Mine That Bird was as cool and as calm as his previous races...Bailey said that Calvin was struggling with him on the backstretch a little and the horse wanted to run too early..When Calvin moved outside he was pretty much committed at that point. I stood up and yelled..Calvin, what are you doing????? Didn't bet on the race..Just wanted him to win..He had the lead but still had almost a quarter of a mile to go..Mine That Birds next start will be a huge race imo..He needs the time off..Desormeaux ran a great race..Congrats to him and Summer Bird..
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:25 PM   #8
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Maybe Velazquez Blew It.

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I agree. What was up with Dunkirk on the lead?
Yes, I bet Dunkirk. Was Velazquez going to win going wire to wire? By the way,
he still beat Mine That Bird.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:27 PM   #9
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Yes, I bet Dunkirk. Was Velazquez going to win going wire to wire? By the way,
he still beat Mine That Bird.
Dunkirk is better than Da Tara, why not?

Speed and inside was great there today, he just got outrun, the guy rode a great race.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:29 PM   #10
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Yes, I bet Dunkirk. Was Velazquez going to win going wire to wire? By the way,
he still beat Mine That Bird.

I bet Dunkirk too! Win only! And Borel didn't blow it he got beat!

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Old 06-06-2009, 07:32 PM   #11
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I don't think either of the riders blew it. They rode the way the horse wanted to run, nothing wrong with that. Strangling a horse going pretty slow early already is no way to win at a mile and a half.

Velazquez gave a masterful ride on Munnings earlier, much to the chagrin of Garrett Gomez.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:34 PM   #12
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This is why Calvin didn't 'blow it'.


Because if he goes on to win, no one says anything about the ride. No one would have said that he moved too soon and won anyway. People would have said it was a perfectly timed ride.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:35 PM   #13
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If you watched the pre race clip of Desormoux and Borel in the jocks room, they were seriously joking around. It was almost like they had decided to set the race up for Kent.. I wonder how much money they won on the side?
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:35 PM   #14
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Fair result imo. Calvin is catching WAY too much flack here on a keen animal, but riders should be used to wearing flak jackets.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:36 PM   #15
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This is why Calvin didn't 'blow it'.


Because if he goes on to win, no one says anything about the ride. No one would have said that he moved too soon and won anyway. People would have said it was a perfectly timed ride.
but he didn't
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