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04-25-2003, 04:40 AM
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Horserace Psychic
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Variant: Solution
I hit 60% spot wins and 1.25 ROI.in Ca. using a variant i discovered and the racing program. I do not use speed figures. I use my variant as intended- to review and predict track-surface speed. I also handicap using the DRF to find WPS profits using my own system. To the industry pros- i would like to become a public handicapper.
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04-25-2003, 06:06 PM
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Re: Variant: Solution
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Originally posted by kenwoodall
I hit 60% spot wins and 1.25 ROI.in Ca. using a variant i discovered and the racing program. I do not use speed figures. I use my variant as intended- to review and predict track-surface speed. I also handicap using the DRF to find WPS profits using my own system. To the industry pros- i would like to become a public handicapper.
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To convince us, you need to post your selections, here, IN ADVANCE. Short of doing that, you won't be believed.
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04-25-2003, 06:56 PM
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Re: Re: Variant: Solution
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Originally posted by thoroughbred
To convince us, you need to post your selections, here, IN ADVANCE. Short of doing that, you won't be believed.
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And then you would be a "public handicapper"!
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04-25-2003, 07:52 PM
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Horserace Psychic
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To anotherDave- i meant "paid"!!
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To Mr. Computracker- Do you win when "slop" is predicted" or "muddy" is predicted? I just predict on dry land also!
Did you know most of the time SA's turf track produces faster times than its dirt track? Or that GGf claimsa harrowing of 2 1/2", while Calder harrows 7"? Try adjusting speed figures for those 2 tracks!!
All variant and speed figure systems i know of are based on a single super fast race and computed using a couple of races for variant, and 1 race for speed figures when most race clocks are not started until 1 second or so out of the gate. Then without a reliable way of predicting the speed of the current day's race, tries to inividually compare each horse with every other in the race. Then maybe a longshot tries to steal the race! Lucky anyone can break even!!
The only reliable way to determine actual track-surface speed is to use a the same number for all (dirt) races same day, same track. Then use 1 factor to determine what the current day's tack-suface speed will be.
My best day at both Ca. tracks using that method for dirt and the program only was 13 races, 11 wins.
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The belief that an angle, factor, method, or system is common-sense and reasonable is what all my systems are based on. That is why they work. Does this one make sense to anyone??
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04-25-2003, 08:43 PM
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"all variant and speed systems re based on single super fast race." What? Most i'm aware of are based on a seasons worth of races for the pars. And variants are the differences in day to day surface. Could you cite an example of a method based on a single race?
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04-25-2003, 08:49 PM
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Kenwoodall.
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04-25-2003, 09:59 PM
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Horserace Psychic
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I erred. I meant to say the top speed or Beyer rating of the current race being handicapped is based on the result of 1 very fast race.
The only reliable way to predict what the track-surface speed is going to be is to know which morning workout times to use. But a lot of people will believe trainers mess with the horses too much to produce any reliable workout times!
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04-26-2003, 08:03 PM
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Re: Variant: Solution
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Originally posted by kenwoodall
I hit 60% spot wins and 1.25 ROI.in Ca. using a variant i discovered and the racing program. I do not use speed figures. I use my variant as intended- to review and predict track-surface speed. I also handicap using the DRF to find WPS profits using my own system. To the industry pros- i would like to become a public handicapper.
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Why?If you are a spot player your win pct will suffer as a public handicapper.Or if you are a tout handicapper,why share your picks?Bet them yourself and unlock the key to the mint.
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04-27-2003, 03:15 AM
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Horserace Psychic
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Public handicappers often have 3 picks per race but have to bet real money only on the ones they want. I will put out my picks and tips, but do not have to reveal my systems. If handicappers played all my top picks as win or show they will be in the black. Of course everybody's ROI improve with spot plays. I can spot play about 2/3 of any races in the U.S. without hurting my ROI because I use 3 different methods of pickng wins.
I have not found anyone who picks California fairs for other than thoroughbreds but i will.
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04-27-2003, 07:38 AM
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Kenwoodall- "the only reliable way to predict what the track surface speed is going to be, is to know which morning workout times to use."
After the morning workouts, and before the afternoon races, most track maintance crews, work on the track, watering, etc..
Not to mention the change in temp. and weather. Wouldn't this make variants made from morning workouts- UNreliable ?
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04-27-2003, 06:17 PM
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The changes between works and races so far has not affected my ROI or my win % Check the Equibase works today at GGF.
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04-27-2003, 06:18 PM
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The changes between works and races so far has not affected my ROI or my win % Check the Equibase works today at GGF. (and Bay Meadows).
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04-27-2003, 09:12 PM
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Horserace Psychic
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Hosshead and others-
Today at Bay Meadows must have been no changes, no wind, and only light rain; I picked 8 of 8 in the dirt today, all favorites. And very fast workouts.
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04-27-2003, 09:30 PM
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Thoroughred and others
Bay Meadows I picked non-favs Sat., only 2 favs won; Sun. I picked all favs in the dirt, 8 of 8 won. Check the Sat. and Sun. works. I did not fix the works OR the races!! LOL!! I made 100% profit off the program!!!
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04-27-2003, 09:54 PM
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Ken,
8-for-8? Playing one horse? What program? How do I get this program?
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