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Old 03-05-2009, 11:38 AM   #1
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Rebates by Track

The industry is starting to listen. Hawthorne announced a significant rebate program today. This is not "bet $100k" and get a tee-shirt, this is significant.

http://www.barntowire.com/2009/HAWnotes090302.html

Even if you bet $10 you get a point back. Rebates max at 4% (and not for $100k a month/whatever. It is for $200k a year), which is the best rebate program for a track in North America, and a few short years ago this would be considered heresy.

Other perks are for discounts on track, concierge service etc.

It's a good start.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:14 PM   #2
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Dean,

This is great if the wagers at other tracks count. Otherwise, although the minimums are much lower, it is only one track.


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Old 03-05-2009, 12:17 PM   #3
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Dave, it says all wagers for the higher levels (before 6:30).

PS: Let us know a bit earlier next time when you are having a seminar. I saw your post and popped it on the blog, but only with an hour or two to go. I am sure members would be interested!
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Old 03-06-2009, 12:34 PM   #4
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That is a step in the right direction, giving the brick and mortar players a shot at reducing take out. Congrats to Hawthorne!

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Old 03-12-2009, 01:58 AM   #5
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Does this only apply to wagers made while at Hawthorne or to wagers made at their OTB's as well?
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Old 03-16-2009, 02:01 PM   #6
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Prairie Meadows Player Points Program

Below is an overview of what is available at Prairie Meadows:

Total Monthly Wagers Player Points Cash (Rebate)
<$1,000 1%
$1,000 $10
$2,000 $20
$3,000 $30
$4,000 $40
$5,000 $50
$6,000 $60
$7,000 $70
$8,000 $80
$9,000 $90
$10,001 $300
$11,000 $330
$12,000 $360
$13,000 $390
$14,000 $420
$15,000 $450
$16,000 $480
$17,000 $510
$18,000 $540
$19,000 $570
$20,000 $600
$21,000 $630
$22,000 $660
$23,000 $690
$24,000 $720
$25,001 $1,250
$26,000 $1,300
$27,000 $1,350
$28,000 $1,400
$29,000 $1,450
$30,000 $1,500

Praire Meadows also has a comps program which, based on the patron's play could get them programs, forms, meals, mechandise etc.

Prairie Meadows has free wi-fi.

Prairie Meadows has portable self-betting machines that patrons can use.

Free soft drinks, coffee, and tea.

Free admission.

Free parking.
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Old 03-16-2009, 02:13 PM   #7
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Below is an overview of what is available at Prairie Meadows:
Is this available through all ADW's?
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Old 03-16-2009, 02:24 PM   #8
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RE: BillW

Bill,

This is our on-track player rewards program. We would love to have you visit.

Thanks.
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This is our on-track player rewards program. We would love to have you visit.

Thanks.
It's a really long drive .
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:12 PM   #10
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To summarize, less than $10K per month will get you 1%.

$10K to $25K will get you 3%

$25K and up will get you 5%.

I don't remember how many months that PRM races, but I bet there aren't many patrons betting on-site who get more than 1%. They can do substantially better than that from a rebate perspective placing their bets via PTC.

Not knocking your track as I've never been there. Is there an adjoining casino?
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:40 PM   #11
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RE: rrbauer

You are correct on the percentages.

We race Thoroughbred only from 4/24 to 7/18. A mixed meet from 7/27 to 9/19. A standardbred meet from 9/28 to 10/24.

The players' reward program applies to both live and the year-round simulcast product.

We offer slot, poker, and table games in addition to pari-mutuel wagering.

What is PTC?
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What is PTC?
PTC is the average-player's ADW outfit. Ask your simulcast director or whoever handles relations with ADW's.
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Am I correct in that cj's numbers are now gone?
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Am I correct in that cj's numbers are now gone?
yup
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