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10-09-2007, 05:06 PM
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DimeSupers Really Are!
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Massachusetts
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Keeneland debuts .50 Cent Trifectas!
Keeneland to Offer 50-Cent Trifecta Wager Beginning Wednesday, October 10
Keeneland will introduce a 50-cent Trifecta wager, beginning Wednesday, October 10.
The Trifecta is a wager in which you select the first three horses in the exact order of finish.
Keeneland also offers a 50-cent Pick 4 and a 10-cent Superfecta wager.
“Our 50-cent Pick 4 and dime Superfecta wagers have been so popular that we thought we’d expand it to Trifectas,” said Keeneland President Nick Nicholson. “These wagers are fun to play, and the price makes them affordable for everyone.”
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10-09-2007, 05:14 PM
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The good news.. .50 cent trifecta
the bad news...50% takeout
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10-09-2007, 05:18 PM
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velocitician
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gIracing
The good news.. .50 cent trifecta
the bad news...50% takeout
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Not what I read.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/articleind...le.asp?id=5758
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10-09-2007, 05:20 PM
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Handicapping
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I like the sound of 50 cent pick 4s!
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10-09-2007, 05:36 PM
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Registered User
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thanks tomorrow's payday!!
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10-10-2007, 12:05 PM
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Just Deplorable
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lebanon, Ohio
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Yeah, let's cater to the friggin' piggybackers
Just kidding. I think, given Keeneland's usually full fields and anything-goes results, this is a smart move.
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10-10-2007, 01:05 PM
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Both-hands Bettor
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NASCAR Country
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Of course, Youbet isn't geared up to take this bet!
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10-10-2007, 01:51 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rastajenk
Yeah, let's cater to the friggin' piggybackers
Just kidding. I think, given Keeneland's usually full fields and anything-goes results, this is a smart move.
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Those piggybackers that you refer to are only adding 20% to 50% handle to the pools for the so call big shot players to win.
Just remember it is not how much you bet that mean anything, it is how much you win that really counts.
So don't be so down on tracks that try new types of wagering to try an increase there handle.
Any increase in the handle benefits the so call big player a lot more than the the little guy with his 10 cent supers, 50 cent pick 4's, 50 cent tri's.
So just sit back and enjoy and hope you take down one of these large pools all by yourself.
BTW: These so call piggybacking bets that you refer to are great hedge bets against your other bets in individual races. Try them you might like them.
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10-10-2007, 01:59 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rastajenk
Yeah, let's cater to the friggin' piggybackers
Just kidding. I think, given Keeneland's usually full fields and anything-goes results, this is a smart move.
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I just read the second line of your post and it appears that you agree that these bets are a very good idea.
Sorry for the rant..
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10-10-2007, 04:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,167
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Got the Race 1 .10 superfecta, comes to $38 or something, played about 8 of them. Not bad for me, since I never win anything. I didn't get any .50 trifectas though, but didn't box them.
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10-10-2007, 11:33 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 17
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Get a life you cheap exotic guys!!
I'm tried of these cheap exotics!!! All it means to standing behind some old man creating some cave man conceived combo. As I stand there in line I can only think many others are there like this guy. I remember reading back about a year ago how these dumb wagers would be the end of horse racing. How true it is. The payouts are ridiculous. I sure miss the days when a 10 to 1 horse would come in and inflate the payout for all exotics bets. Now... that horse comes in and a one dollar superfecta pays maybe 3 times that of trifecta. This is all due to the great 10 cent superfecta.
Check the odds on the following race. If you bet the winner your odds are 10 to 1 (10x2=20+2 = approx. 23.60), whereas if you bet the 10 cent superfecta you get 77 to 1 ( 771.30/ 10x.10= 77.13)... hey that's just as much as the exacta. In the past this superfecta use to pay about 20,000 dollars. That's when it was worth betting. I guess if you bet the 10 cent superfecta you must be the same guy who bet Lost in the Fog at 1/5. What an idiotic bet. So listen Mr. 10 cent superfecta get a life!!!
Santa Anita/ Oak Tree 10-08-2007....2nd race
Next Post 1:32 Off: 1:01 | 1 1/16 Miles | 3 Year Olds And Up | Maiden Claiming ($25,000 - $22,500) | Purse: $17,280
#HorseJockeyWeightWinPlaceShow8Latin CircuitRosario J12023.6011.205.207WritMigliore R1186.803.402Mahalo LaniGryder A T1202.10
Times in 5ths: :222 :46 1:11 1:37 1:434
Times in 100ths: :22.59 :46.09 1:11.15 1:37.18 1:43.90
Also ran: Blazeitgirl, Mango Frappe, Quick Honey, True Image and Serena's Future
Winning Trainer: Capitaine Nester M - Owner: Capitaine & Malley
$1 Exacta (8-7) Paid $71.70
$1 Trifecta (8-7-2) Paid $217.00
$1 Superfecta (8-7-2-4) Paid $771.30
Last edited by Dodgersv; 10-10-2007 at 11:40 PM.
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10-11-2007, 01:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Hatfield/Harleysville PA
Posts: 265
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I love ten cent supers. They are a really fun bet to take a small risk on. I love boxing 4 horses for 2.40 cents. Or being able to take a horse with all/all/all and not having it cost a fortune. Sometimes when Im feeling lucky I will play them for more then ten cents like maybe 40 or 50 cents. My tsn account lets me do the ten centers all the way up to 90 centers without having to create multiple tickets. By 90 center I mean I can physically say I want a 90 cent superfecta 1/234 as an example and I believe that would cost around 5.40 on one ticket.
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10-11-2007, 08:45 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,167
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For small budgets like mine they're great, going back today to lose what I won!!!
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10-11-2007, 10:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,991
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I think they are fun as well. Usually, i would not key a 20/1 on top of a super for $1. but instead use exacta or tris proportionately. It lets me expand my play and not get killed. Think of all the retirees on fixed incomes , while the older seniors might not play exotics as much as the younger set, when the younger set gets there, the bet is in place. Lets the "hat pin" people put their dimes together as well for a group super. There is nothing preventing the "old experienced pro super players" from laying it in multiple times either. While I understand the concerns of long time super players, the pool should be more available to the small player. Same thing happened to the P4, pro's were concerned about 50 cent at keeneland, but they still pay very nice now with poly. The new P5 $1 bet at Monmouth and Santa Anita should fill a need for some. Take a look at it some time vs the $1p4 and $2 p6. Lots to choose on this menu. The only bet which I detest is the rolling daily doubles on the west coast, as 2 legs of a p3 are exposed, taking away some value (to me) in playing horizontal exotics there, so i don't.
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10-11-2007, 10:38 AM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,559
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cheap exotics
the bad - I am rewarded less for knowing that the 5th or 6th choice is better than the 4th choice.
the good - smaller bet units=more strategy , additional opportunity in cheap-evenly-matched races.
I was against this for the Breeders Cup, but it's here, I still hold out hope that we don't see these in the Kentucky Derby day.
I hate them on huge days , but if it wasn't for .10s I wouldn't have a lot of reasons to play some of these Keeneland and Arlington polytrack races at all.
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