Thoro-Graph - All Online Data is FREE 12/26-12/31

[Kohl]

Received this in my email today in case anyone is interested and ever wanted to check out:

Happy Holidays from Thoro-Graph
The BEST Data in Life Is FREE
Race Days 12/26-12/31

Online Only – Download Any or All of
our Products Absolutely FREE

New Customers must register for an account. Go to
http://www.thorograph.com
and click on Order Online.

[takeout]

Why do they want your credit card number if it’s free?

[takeout]

Correction: “absolutely FREE”

I didn’t know that distinction could be made. Kind of like being absolutely pregnant, I guess.

[DJofSD]

You mean like "new and improved?"

[DerbyTrail]

Originally Posted by takeout

Why do they want your credit card number if it’s free?

Takeout..

You just have to establish an account. You don't have to buy any product EVER if you don't care to. TG does this every year as a thank you to its real and loyal customers. It's about as generous an offering as you'll find around this industry. You can use the figures for every track out there (at a $25/track/day value) ALL NEXT WEEK. That will include Wednesday's $184,000 Big A carryover and the Opening Week of Santa Anita... It gives you an incredible chance to learn how Thoro-Graph's figs work, their patterns, etc.. Obviously they'd like it if you became a regular user, but you're not obligated.

This is the proverbial gift horse... (By questioning its voracity, I'd guess you're the type that expects it to take a few fingers off when you look in it's mouth.)

[andicap]

Maybe they think Jerry Brown is going to take your credit card numbers and do some nefarious stuff arund the web with them?

[takeout]

Originally Posted by DerbyTrail

This is the proverbial gift horse... (By questioning its voracity, I'd guess you're the type that expects it to take a few fingers off when you look in it's mouth.)

You got that right.

My original question still goes unanswered. If it's free why do they need a credit card number?

[Figman]

Derby Trail,
You're getting to sound a lot like JJ Graci!
Why should Jerry Brown get my credit card number is a legitimate question?

[cj]

It is pretty simple in my opinion. He is giving away a week's worth of data, and to get it, you have to register to be a customer. He wants you to come back and purchase later of course.

That said, who is more likely to come back, someone already with an account that is ready to go, or someone that has to go through the whole process? It is strictly business.

I don't agree with some of JBs figure making theories, so its not like I'm trying to pimp his stuff, but I don't think I've ever heard a single complaint about his customer service or the way he treats customers. I seriously doubt there is anything to worry about.

Were you guys just asking as a form of complaining, or did you really not see this as the reason?

[Speed Figure]

That makes sense to me. You can't get any of the free files that bris offers unless you have an account.

[BillW]

Originally Posted by Figman

Derby Trail,
You're getting to sound a lot like JJ Graci!
Why should Jerry Brown get my credit card number is a legitimate question?

It's a condition for not paying for an intro week of his files. If the cost is too much for you just pass - I am.

Bill

[Zaf]

Originally Posted by BillW

It's a condition for not paying for an intro week of his files. If the cost is too much for you just pass - I am.

Bill

I'll pass too, I am very happy with CJ's.

Z

[Indulto]

Figman,

If I were a paying customer for handicapping data supplied on-line, I might resent others receiving for free what I had to pay several hundred dollars for, especially if additional use of that data lowered payoffs on my wagers based on that data.

"Try before you buy" is the only way to attract skeptical, if not cynical, new customers. By insisting that requests for evaluating commercially-viable data be honored only when there is no doubt they are both legitimate and qualified, the marketer appears to be keeping faith with its existing customer base.

The marketing technique itself appears hard to criticize, regardless of one's opinion of the product or the marketer.

[Figman]

I just said "it is a good question."

I've been making my own figures for many many years and have seen the Brown and the Rags many times over. Not interested!

Extremely happy to use my own figs and variants and supplement with CJ's great creation and John Beaver's Yeast.

[jorge jaramillo]

MAYBE THE IDEA IS TO CONTROL THAE REGULAR CLIENTS, MOST PROBABLY THIS PROMOTION DON'T APPLY TO THEM, BESIDES. I AGREE WITH CJ ........................