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10-26-2005, 10:54 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
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software(B.C.) pix
Did I ever tell you that TMH picked Volponi on top
good ole M.P. picked it cold , so that got me thinking
what if ,for B.C., we divulged our precious software pix on board
I am game if you are
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10-26-2005, 01:45 PM
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Did that last year and have no problem doing it again
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10-28-2005, 07:59 PM
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TMH pick Classic Super Frolic
Turfbar
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10-29-2005, 03:05 AM
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My own program picks Borrego for the Classic, but its forte isn't stakes races.
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10-29-2005, 03:09 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: White Plains, NY
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My program, HTR, doesn't pick the horses.
I do.
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10-29-2005, 03:31 AM
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Comfortably Numb
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Lexington, Ky
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My computer likes St. Liam (based on the lowest fair odds it generates). Using my computer, I would play Sir Shackleton if the odds hold. I would also look at Flower Alley seriously. Please note that my computer doesn't stake the bankroll, therefore can be a bit irresponsible at times .
Last edited by BillW; 10-29-2005 at 03:38 AM.
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10-29-2005, 03:51 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Just did the BC Classic with CJ's program (figs) and I have come to the following conclusions:
a) Saint Liam isn't dominating enough to warrant betting at anywhere near his morning line....
b) Perfect Drift might be the perfect price/ability horse in the Classic. He has the ability, and he will be a price. Plus he's the perfect kind of "off the radar" horse....
c) Borrego is a scary horse, but won't be a big enough price to warrant the risk.
I guess what I'm trying to say is Perfect Drift is probably going to be my main bet in the Classic....
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10-29-2005, 08:28 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: North Texas
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Software Picks
Belmont- 5th- Profiler selects #10 on top and it has profitable running style. Belmont- 8th- Profiler selects #3 on top and it has profitable running style. Belmont- 9th- Profiler selects #8 on top and it has profitable running style. Belmont-10th-Profiler selects #14 on top and it has profitable running style. This is the only way to be at least fair to the program to provide a selection on top which also matches a profitable running style for the race in question. Any races listed with Foreign horses might be affected such as 5th race #13. 9th race #3. 10th race #4. Just a little food for thought. Hope these help and good luck to all.
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10-29-2005, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Dallas, Tx
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Haha...Funny but true ACap.
Best HTR Ratings...
Average Pace: St. Liam
Velocity: Perfect Drift
K Rating: St. Liam
Pedigree: Flower Alley
Work Out: A Bit O Gold and Flower Alley
Closer: Choctaw Nation/Perfect Drift
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10-29-2005, 09:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: GA
Posts: 2,860
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Beav's Yeast
Saint Liam
Sir Shackleton
WorkHorse Pro 2
Saint Liam
Choctow Nation
Val3
Perfect Drift
Borrego
JCapper
Saint Liam
Flower Alley
Capsheet 4.1
Saint Liam
Flower Alley
Hope everyone has a good day.
Jim
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10-29-2005, 10:37 AM
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douglasw32
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Horseheads, NY
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Dougs VB 6 Pull (performance class rating, pace adj speed, pedigree etc)
Classic
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Saint Liam OR Flower Alley
with
Suave/Oratorio
Turf
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Gun Salute OR English Channel
with
Bago/Shaqkespear/Leprechuan Kid
Distaff
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Ashado OR Happy Ticket OR Stellar Jayne
with
Yolando B/Healthy Addiction/Island Fashion/In the Gold/Sweet Symphony
Mile
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Leroideesanimaux OR Artie Schiller
with
Funfair/Majors Cast/Singeltary/Limehouse
Sprint
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Lost in the Fog OR Silver Train
with
Elusive Jazz/Wildcat Heir/Atilas Storm/Taste of Paradise
F&M Turf
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Mona Lisa OR Intercontinental OR Favourable Terms
with
Angara/Ouija Board/Sundrop/Megahertz
Juvenille
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Dr. Pleasure OR Dawn of War
with
Sorcerers Stone/First Samurai
Juvenille Fillies
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Folklore OR Sensation
with
Knights of Templar/Adieu/She Says It Best
and the TWO OPENERS to BOOT
Discovery Handicap
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Quadrant OR War Front
with
Watchmon/Spanish Mission/Scrappy T
Sport Page Handicap
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Captain Squire OR Value Plus
with
Voodo/Brand name
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10-29-2005, 11:52 AM
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Track Judge oddsline
Here is the TJ BC oddsline. Euro horses have no psr or speed ratings, so use conventional handicapping for these horses.
Race Horsename Program Odds
3
Adieu 6 3.0
Folklore 1 4.8
She Says It Best 8 5.6
Knights Templar 5 6.1
Original Spin 2 9.0
Ex Caelis 9 15.6
Sensation 7 19.0
Wild Fit 10 24.0
Diamond Omi 4 32.3
Along the Sea 3 99.0
4
First Samurai 9 2.7
Henny Hughes 10 4.5
Set Alight 4 11.5
Ivan Denisovich (IRE) 2 13.2
Leo (GB) 3 13.2
Stevie Wonderboy 12 15.6
Dawn of War 6 19.0
Sorcerer's Stone 8 19.0
Jealous Profit 5 24.0
Superfly 1 32.3
Brother Derek 13 32.3
Dr. Pleasure 14 32.3
Stream Cat 7 49.0
Private Vow 11 49.0
5
Riskaverse 4 4.5
Intercontinental (GB) 10 5.6
Wonder Again 7 7.3
Luas Line (IRE) 1 10.1
Ouija Board (GB) 13 11.5
Angara (GB) 14 13.2
Film Maker 2 15.6
Favourable Terms (GB) 9 15.6
Mona Lisa (GB) 11 15.6
Flip Flop (FR) 6 19.0
Sundrop (JPN) 3 24.0
Megahertz (GB) 8 24.0
Wend 5 99.0
Karen's Caper 12 99.0
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Lost in the Fog 7 3.7
Wildcat Heir 6 4.0
Taste of Paradise 1 5.2
Lion Tamer 5 11.5
Gygistar 11 11.5
Elusive Jazz 8 13.2
Attila's Storm 2 19.0
Lifestyle 9 19.0
Silver Train 3 24.0
Battle Won 4 24.0
Imperialism 10 49.0
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Leroidesanimaux (BRZ) 11 2.5
Artie Schiller 2 5.6
Limehouse 12 6.6
Singletary 9 10.1
Funfair (GB) 6 13.2
Majors Cast (IRE) 7 15.6
Ad Valorem 5 19.0
Valixir (IRE) 10 19.0
Host (CHI) 1 24.0
Sand Springs 4 32.3
Gorella (FR) 8 32.3
Whipper 3 99.0
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Ashado 3 3.1
Society Selection 1 5.6
Happy Ticket 7 7.3
Stellar Jayne 2 10.1
Sweet Symphony 12 11.5
Yolanda B. Too 5 13.2
Island Fashion 8 13.2
Nothing But Fun 4 24.0
Healthy Addiction 6 24.0
Hollywood Story 9 24.0
In the Gold 10 24.0
Capeside Lady 13 24.0
Pleasant Home 11 99.0
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Better Talk Now 4 6.6
Shakespeare 7 7.3
Silverfoot 8 9.0
English Channel 10 9.0
Laura's Lucky Boy 11 9.0
Gun Salute 13 11.5
Shirocco (GER) 2 13.2
Bago (FR) 3 13.2
Azamour (IRE) 5 13.2
Ace (IRE) 6 13.2
Shake the Bank 1 15.6
Fourty Niners Son 9 19.0
Leprechaun Kid 12 99.0
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Borrego 11 4.5
Saint Liam 13 4.8
Oratorio (IRE) 4 13.2
Sir Shackleton 6 13.2
Perfect Drift 5 15.6
Jack Sullivan 10 15.6
Starcraft (NZ) 14 15.6
Choctaw Nation 3 19.0
Super Frolic 7 32.3
Suave 8 32.3
Sun King 2 49.0
Flower Alley 9 49.0
A Bit O'Gold 12 99.0
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10-29-2005, 12:23 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Equisim likes the usual suspects until you go back to Saratoga on the 8 horse. The horse stumbled last out..........in spite of Prado's record in the BC I love Suave at a price.................
Suave!
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10-29-2005, 01:16 PM
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Irrationally exuberant
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 740
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Turfbar--I don;t see how you think TMH points to #7 Super Frolic.
If you look at the odds, it picks
Perfect Drift
Sait LIam
Super Frolic
Choctaw Nation
Suave
If you look at PPF it points to
Perfect Drift
Sait LIam
Borego
Choctaw Nation
Sup[er Frolic
SO maybe Super Frolic is certainly a possibnle bet based on the odds...but there are many posibilities.
Goood luck, Cato
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10-30-2005, 12:27 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Cato
Do you have TMH or is that TMM your using? I think turfbar is referring to The Master Handicapper not The Master Magician of course both come from the same place but use different data TMH is the older program it came before Handicapping Magic which developed into TMM...
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