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09-13-2005, 07:46 AM
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Someday We'll Know
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Intelligent Marching
How many have seen "March of the Penguins"? It's very good, but I'm reading
where "THE RIGHT" claims it shows intelligent design & love of the family unit.
Where do they find such conclusions? #1, the movie clearly says each year, as the emperor penguins hunt for females, they find NEW ones, and do NOT stay
with last year's model. So much for monogamy. At a very early age, after much support, the youngens are sent away to enjoy life, sans parents. And,
no, the kids don't cell phone home, not even at Christmas. #2, Imprinting and
Gene Expression --- both imply rigid, non-changing, persistent behavior do NOT
require any references to a GOD. Darwin's evolotion ideas are real clear.
If you want to throw your hat into this, go see the movie & check out a Right
web site: www.lionsofgod.com.
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09-13-2005, 09:23 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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I saw the movie here in NYC at the Angelica this summer. I thought it was really a wonderful film. I'm glad they did the narration by Morgan Freeman rather than just going with the original script as it was the penguins talking to each other....oh well, we all know the French have a different sense of humor than us, Jerry Lewis and all that  Anyway Derek, this intelligent design is the new name for creationism. They just gave it the kind of name that can entrap someone like me who believes in God, yet also thinks Darwin was right if you don't look into what they are saying so closely. Anyway, I have birds, and while they do play with me and respond to things I say and do, I know full well that a lot of their actions are purely instinct. I'll never know what they really think or feel, but I sure am not going to anthropomorphise their every day actions cause they're not people, they're birds.
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09-13-2005, 09:27 AM
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Yes, it is a great movie. And OTM is right Morgan Freeman makes it that much better.
On evolution and the intelligent design idea. I don't wanna get into that. I think the apes are close cousins though.
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09-13-2005, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobby
Yes, it is a great movie. And OTM is right Morgan Freeman makes it that much better.
On evolution and the intelligent design idea. I don't wanna get into that. I think the apes are close cousins though.
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Morgan Freeman makes any movie better.
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09-13-2005, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by schweitz
Morgan Freeman makes any movie better.
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Amen to that.
Since when is "love of the family unit" or thinking/feeling evidence of intelligent design? After all, the debate centers around humans, and no one disagrees that we do those things. Heck, we CAN have semi-intelligent conversations with apes and chimps that have been taught sign language -- seems to me that would be more evidence of evolution than anything...
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09-13-2005, 06:33 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Yeah, Morgan is my favorite actor - he is really good in any part he plays.
I look forward to his "dark side" roels in serial killer movies.
He just makes the characters believable.
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09-14-2005, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
He just makes the characters believable.
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I think his best movie was Shawshank. & That's one of my favorites.
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09-14-2005, 09:21 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Its strange but I never really got into Shawshank all that much. It's a good film and does have some memorable lines, but for some reason it just doesn't do it for me. I would have to say that Driving Ms Daisy would be the best film Mr Freeman's done, just ahead of Glory.
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09-14-2005, 08:49 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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I liked 7 and Kiss the Girls.
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09-14-2005, 09:23 PM
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Unforgiven
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09-14-2005, 11:39 PM
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Give me a Break! Driving Miss Daisy! The man was brilliant! 
Al got it right...............
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09-14-2005, 11:40 PM
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His Oscar for "Million-Dollar Baby" was surely long overdue (although I'm saying that on the basis of his entire career, since I haven't seen that particular movie).
By the way, anyone on the board remember him as Easy Reader, or disk jockey Mellow Mel Mounds (?) ("Out of sighteous!") and other characters (along with Rita Moreno and others) on "The Electric Company" (the graduate school for "Sesame Street") on PBS in the late '60's and early '70's? I wish episodes of that show were available on video somewhere. I'd buy them in a heartbeat. Had to be the most sophisticated kids' show (humorwise) ever made.
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09-14-2005, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GameTheory
Unforgiven
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Agreed. Got to see it in a theatre on a pretty big screen. It left me speechless. I'm not a big fan of Hollywood movies, but Unforgiven is great.
The thing that really struck me was that the morality was grey and not black and white. You don't see that alot in American movies. I noticed that you see it frequently in British movies that were made not long after WWII.
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09-14-2005, 11:58 PM
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The guy has one of the coolest voices ever. As far as favorite movie, I vote for Glory - awesome movie.
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09-15-2005, 12:51 AM
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Beat up 💪
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Classic
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Originally Posted by swetyejohn
Agreed. Got to see it in a theatre on a pretty big screen. It left me speechless. I'm not a big fan of Hollywood movies, but Unforgiven is great.
The thing that really struck me was that the morality was grey and not black and white. You don't see that alot in American movies. I noticed that you see it frequently in British movies that were made not long after WWII.
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