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Old 12-03-2004, 11:05 PM   #1
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Interesting article - Muslims marching for end to terror

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...icle924678.ece
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:49 PM   #2
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Only within this group, would you find debate over opposing terror.
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:57 PM   #3
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But at least the is now some vocal opposition to terror!

And I'm sure the different one-time waring branches of Christianity had some debate over opposing or continuing violence - The Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, the Protestant/Cathollic battles in Ireland and other conflicts with imposed religion from England (hence Pilgrims leaving for America for religious freedom)

I see it as a hopeful start. Let's stay tuned.
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Old 12-04-2004, 02:54 PM   #4
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LOL....yes I'm very hopeful
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Old 12-04-2004, 06:09 PM   #5
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As I heard some one on T.V. say recently, this is a war within the muslim faith not a war with them.

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Old 12-04-2004, 07:39 PM   #6
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Vol. 11, No. 7 June 2003

On another line of conviction it seems impossible to make it known on this side of the barricades that what we have here is indeed a Holy War. Islam constitutes a faith, rather than a nation. Endeavoring to analyze national confrontations in this struggle is futile. The Chechens and the Pakistanis and the Palestinians who streamed down to Iraq to fight "The Great Satan" were Moslems, not nationals. We wiped out a minor nation-state in Iraq with relatively little difficulty, but that does not serve to impress the faithful. We can hardly set forth to subdue Islam in a military or geographical sense, but what we can do is to identify Islam as the enemy and to convince them that the East can no more defeat the West than the West can defeat the East. We have here the greatest standoff in history. It is up to us to convince the raghead on the camel that simply killing kafirs, as the prophet (may peace be upon him) exhorts him to do, will not raise his standard of living, even if it may assure his passport to paradise.

We wish President Bush all success in his delineation of a "road map to peace," but it must be clear that until the enemy understands the problem, he is unlikely to stop fighting. The outcome of the struggle in Mesopotamia ought to serve as a convincing object lesson. I guess it is pretty hard to put that point across in Arabic.
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I think Col Cooper just nails it
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Old 12-05-2004, 09:37 PM   #7
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the fools !! do they want to be excommunicated ??
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Old 12-06-2004, 11:00 AM   #8
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An disappointing follow up -

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...icle925917.ece
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WOW-That's a shocker
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