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03-29-2018, 10:42 AM
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More Chaos in the Trump White House
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03-29-2018, 10:49 AM
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I'm sure this is a bad thing somehow...someone (either Clocker or elysiantraveller most likely) will post about the dangers of an "overheated" economy or whatever...
Kind of like the whole "Trade Deficits are awesome, what the hell are you talking about?" meme that recently went on here...
Somebody always has a negative counterbalance to any positive news or efforts being made when it comes to this administration...
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03-29-2018, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I'm sure this is a bad thing somehow...someone (either Clocker or elysiantraveller most likely) will post about the dangers of an "overheated" economy or whatever...
Kind of like the whole "Trade Deficits are awesome, what the hell are you talking about?" meme that recently went on here...
Somebody always has a negative counterbalance to any positive news or efforts being made when it comes to this administration...
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Nope.
Economy is in good shape. I actually made this point talking about how great it is here when you guys harp on trade deficits...
Who the hell is going to make the shit to eat into that trade deficit?
Surprisingly no one answered. 
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03-29-2018, 11:42 AM
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Sure I did.
We have new people entering the work force every day.
We also have many leaving, but more available jobs, maybe that will diminish. Not everyone wants to leave.
Also, there are opportunities for people to move up from McJobs to take better jobs.
You can always look for reason why something will not work, but you will never get a solution that way.
You have to look for ways to make it work. Positive thinking translates to confidence. When people have confidence, they find solutions.
If push comes to shove, we can always recruit immigrants - you know, the legal way, looking for people to fill our needs.
Nothing makes a country stronger than a good economy and a smart immigration program.
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03-29-2018, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Sure I did.
We have new people entering the work force every day.
We also have many leaving, but more available jobs, maybe that will diminish. Not everyone wants to leave.
Also, there are opportunities for people to move up from McJobs to take better jobs.
You can always look for reason why something will not work, but you will never get a solution that way.
You have to look for ways to make it work. Positive thinking translates to confidence. When people have confidence, they find solutions.
If push comes to shove, we can always recruit immigrants - you know, the legal way, looking for people to fill our needs.
Nothing makes a country stronger than a good economy and a smart immigration program.
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No you didn't.
You said "make babies."
Our workforce is currently shrinking. That's a cold hard fact. Our demographics are aging.
You can take all of your "positive thinking" and create more laborers with that. Probably won't go well.
Like I said in my first post the economy is strong right now... My point was directed at PA. We are at FULL EMPLOYMENT. Who is going to make the stuff to offset trade deficits? You haven't answered this at all. To quote your article:
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Most companies have enough trouble finding skilled workers to fill open jobs that they are reluctant to see veteran employees go for any reason.
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Good article on full employment here:
https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/full-employment
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03-29-2018, 12:01 PM
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The New Democrat Party has killed off over 60,000,000 workers and tax payers over the past 40 years. 
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03-29-2018, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I'm sure this is a bad thing somehow...someone (either Clocker or elysiantraveller most likely) will post about the dangers of an "overheated" economy or whatever...
Kind of like the whole "Trade Deficits are awesome, what the hell are you talking about?" meme that recently went on here...
Somebody always has a negative counterbalance to any positive news or efforts being made when it comes to this administration...
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Looks like good news to me. Why does anyone that ever posts any negative comments about The Donald get labeled a Trump Hater? Most of what he actually did in the first year was good, which is why the economy is doing well.
The stuff he is talking about now is bad and will hurt the economy, especially tariffs. There is nothing wrong with a trade deficit. The last time we didn't have one for any long period of time was about 100 years ago, and it contributed to the Great Depression.
I have posted sources showing why a trade deficit is not bad for the country, but very few comment on them or try to provide evidence to the contrary, they just accuse me and a few others of being Trump haters.
I don't remember anyone here arguing objectively against the "the whole "Trade Deficits are awesome, what the hell are you talking about?" meme", they just dismiss it as nonsense, contrary to common sense, and Trump hatred. And evidence I have posted to show how tariffs have hurt the country has also been ignored.
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03-29-2018, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Our workforce is currently shrinking. That's a cold hard fact. Our demographics are aging.
You can take all of your "positive thinking" and create more laborers with that. Probably won't go well.
Like I said in my first post the economy is strong right now... My point was directed at PA. We are at FULL EMPLOYMENT. Who is going to make the stuff to offset trade deficits? You haven't answered this at all...
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Are you suggesting that our factories are all running at full capacity? Also in today's world ramping up production doesn't mean that labor needs to be increased dramatically. Automation is what will make the "stuff".
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03-29-2018, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by incoming
The New Democrat Party has killed off over 60,000,000 workers and tax payers over the past 40 years. |
But they immigrated quite a few.
Allan
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03-29-2018, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
No you didn't.
You said "make babies."
Our workforce is currently shrinking.
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Already happening.
One birth in the US every 8 seconds
One death every 11 seconds
One new immigrant every 29 seconds
https://www.census.gov/popclock/
Our workforce may be shrinking.
But our population is growing (good for the GDP)
Allan
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03-29-2018, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC
Are you suggesting that our factories are all running at full capacity? Also in today's world ramping up production doesn't mean that labor needs to be increased dramatically. Automation is what will make the "stuff".
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But the argument For Tariffs is those great manufacturing jobs.
People on the Trump side of this argument can't have it both ways.
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03-29-2018, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
Already happening.
One birth in the US every 8 seconds
One death every 11 seconds
One new immigrant every 29 seconds
https://www.census.gov/popclock/
Our workforce may be shrinking.
But our population is growing (good for the GDP)
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Good answer... I stand corrected.
Growing slowly.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2015/ar...-to-2024-1.htm
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03-29-2018, 05:02 PM
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One new immigrant every 29 seconds
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Legal or illegal? 
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03-29-2018, 08:40 PM
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it's just swamp draining.
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03-30-2018, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
But the argument For Tariffs is those great manufacturing jobs.
People on the Trump side of this argument can't have it both ways.
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Let me clue you in...automation creates many very well paying jobs.
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