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Old 12-29-2017, 01:04 PM   #1
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My Eclipse votes

Can't change them now, but feel free to rip away.

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Looks good to me.

Wonder if we will ever see another Jockey from the west coast win an Eclipse, seems like its almost always a NY rider.
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I hate the people Eclipses. It seems none of the voters can be bothered to look at the number and quality of stock to see who really did an exemplary job. And in the case of the trainers, how many of their horses they're really training.
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Looks good to me.

Wonder if we will ever see another Jockey from the west coast win an Eclipse, seems like its almost always a NY rider.
They have the most purse money, and thus draw the best riders. It could change, but probably not anytime soon.
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Can't change them now, but feel free to rip away.
They should add a category for "Best TV-Personality of the Year". Why should Todd Schrupp be denied this award year after year?
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Just out of curiosity, how do you measure/assess best trainer of the year? Thanks.

Yours does train Gun Runner.
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Just out of curiosity, how do you measure/assess best trainer of the year? Thanks.

Yours does train Gun Runner.
That was a big part of it for me, Gun Runner. There are no set criteria or anything. It was tough for me to pick between Chad and Steve.
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Its interesting that Pletcher is one short of having the same amount of Eclipse awards as Bob Baffert and Wayne Lukas combined.
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Its interesting that Pletcher is one short of having the same amount of Eclipse awards as Bob Baffert and Wayne Lukas combined.
I think many voters just default to the money title winner.
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Are you sure about your steeplechase selections?
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Are you sure about your steeplechase selections?
I did my best!
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What date is the awards?
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No arguments here. We have very similar selections. I think we are different in the top slot on female sprinter (which was a very difficult category), trainer, and a couple of 2nds and 3rds we have flip flopped.
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The press shouldn't vote on the people awards. For the most part, for example, they have no clue what superior horsemanship is. Trainers should vote for the trainer award, Breeders for Breeders, jockeys for jockeys, owners for owners.
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The press shouldn't vote on the people awards. For the most part, for example, they have no clue what superior horsemanship is. Trainers should vote for the trainer award, Breeders for Breeders, jockeys for jockeys, owners for owners.
I'd be fine with that, but plenty of bad trainers and jockeys out there that don't their crafts either.

Other sports do the same thing. Cy Young isn't voted on by pitchers, etc. Interesting discussion.

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