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05-07-2017, 11:54 AM
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Bring Back the Cheap Speed
I think the win mutual was way more fun, and the race itself more enjoyable prior to the current points system. I think we need to either put a couple 7f 3 yr old races on the points trail or get rid of the system. It was fun watching pace meltdowns and three across the wire finishes. This was one spread out field this year, even worse than the previous two.
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05-07-2017, 12:06 PM
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Amen brother. Point system killed the derby. I have been saying the same thing since I figured out the point system. Biggest and best race of the year is just no fun anymore. 5 straight years of favorites. Belmont has become a way better race.
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05-07-2017, 05:28 PM
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at least tweak it... add more races worth pts, take the early 10 pts races and make them worth 25 to the winner and scale down from there
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05-07-2017, 05:34 PM
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Location: Denver, CO
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It's actually a plan to bring new fans to the game. Millennials want things easy, so CDI obliged  
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05-07-2017, 06:03 PM
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I spent years and years trying to understand the "old" Kentucky Derby and its nuances, so I'd rather get the cheap speed back too rather than accept the new era.
Last edited by letswastemoney; 05-07-2017 at 06:05 PM.
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05-07-2017, 08:23 PM
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I would accept it if weren't so boring and predictable.
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05-07-2017, 08:32 PM
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eh nothing we can do to change it. We just got to change. Tactical speed horse thats logical favorite bet it and bet hard.
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05-07-2017, 09:03 PM
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I agree, American racing needs rabbits to chase in the races...there ought to be rabbits provided by the track for just this purpose, so there will always be true pace and so the front end can not be milked for an easy score...
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05-08-2017, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
I agree, American racing needs rabbits to chase in the races...there ought to be rabbits provided by the track for just this purpose, so there will always be true pace and so the front end can not be milked for an easy score...
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That makes a lot of sense...NOT... 
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05-08-2017, 03:02 PM
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Pace, you're absolutely correct. I've been telling myself this for the past 4 years. The problem is that I never listen to myself come derby day.
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05-08-2017, 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
That makes a lot of sense...NOT... |
ok, track owned rabbits are a no go idea...but in europe, rabbits are a common feature in most races aren't they...?
What explains this...?
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05-08-2017, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
ok, track owned rabbits are a no go idea...but in europe, rabbits are a common feature in most races aren't they...?
What explains this...?
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Lots of horses bred to be closers on the turf who need an honest pace to run at? That's just a guess.
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05-08-2017, 03:12 PM
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Why should we 'subsidize' closers? Makes no sense.
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05-08-2017, 03:13 PM
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People have short memories. They forget all the years of constant complaining about horses that didn't belong. This would be a horrible idea. Just looking at the payouts for this Derby, alone, should allow anyone to see how horrible an idea this would be. In other words, it is on you, not Churchill, if you didn't find value this year. It was there.
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05-08-2017, 03:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grits
People have short memories. They forget all the years of constant complaining about horses that didn't belong. This would be a horrible idea. Just looking at the payouts for this Derby, alone, should allow anyone to see how horrible an idea this would be. In other words, it is on you, not Churchill, if you didn't find value this year. It was there.
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Perfect !!
I wrote an incoherent books worth and you found a way to say it in two sentences.
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