Derby 143 Field is set

[AirNate012]

1. Lookin at Lee - 20/1
2. Thundersnow - 20/1
3. Fast and Accurate - 50/1
4. Untrapped - 30/1
5. Always Dreaming - 5/1
6. State of Honor - 30/1
7. Girvin - 15/1
8. Hence - 15/1
9. Irap - 20/1
10. Gunnevera - 15/1
11. Battle of Midway - 30/1
12. Sonneteer - 50/1
13. J Boys Echo - 20/1
14. Classic Empire - 4/1
15. McCraken - 5/1
16. Tapwrit - 20/1
17. Irish War Cry - 6/1
18. Gormley - 15/1
19. Practical Joke - 20/1
20. Patch - 30/1


Interesting to see that the speed drew inside.

[PowerUpPaynter]

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[PowerUpPaynter]

3 things stand out at me.

1. Always Dreaming drew not the worst but pretty crummy

2. Irish War Cry drew very good.

3. McCraken at 5-1 on the morning line? - head scratcher... I figured 10-1 or even 12-1

[AirNate012]

5/1 on a horse that hasn't run fast enough to beat nearly half the field? No thanks.

[Jp66123]

Great draw for Hence. With the late money he took in the Sunland derby I'm guessing his connections knew something went wrong in the Southwest and that he would improve. Maiden win in the slop was special as well.

[chiguy]

My very scientific methods have led me to an all "G" trifecta box. Gormley, Girvin and Gunnevera. I probably just killed my price by releasing this here.

[Valuist]

If you draw the 1 post or the outer 3-4 posts, you have little to no chance. Yes, we all know Big Brown won from the 20 hole, but are there any Big Browns in this field? No. Just too much ground loss on the first turn from drawing that far outside.

[yankeelpn]

Originally Posted by AirNate012

5/1 on a horse that hasn't run fast enough to beat nearly half the field? No thanks.

Guess you were talikng about McCraken?

[yankeelpn]

Originally Posted by Jp66123

Great draw for Hence. With the late money he took in the Sunland derby I'm guessing his connections knew something went wrong in the Southwest and that he would improve. Maiden win in the slop was special as well.

That 15-1 wont last, Ill guess between 6-1 - 8-1

[PowerUpPaynter]

Much rather be Irish War Cry than Always Dreaming. Irish War Cry if he breaks well could be sitting pretty by the time they hit the turn. Always Dreaming is kinda in a bad spot with State Of Honor, Irap, and Battle Of Midway to his outside.

[yankeelpn]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

Much rather be Irish War Cry than Always Dreaming. Irish War Cry if he breaks well could be sitting pretty by the time they hit the turn. Always Dreaming is kinda in a bad spot with State Of Honor, Irap, and Battle Of Midway to his outside.

I would let Fast and Accurate go to the lead and pounch when the time is right. Still believe AD is the best of these, now its a waiting game!

[FrankieFigs]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

3 things stand out at me.

3. McCraken at 5-1 on the morning line? - head scratcher... I figured 10-1 or even 12-1

Originally Posted by AirNate012

5/1 on a horse that hasn't run fast enough to beat nearly half the field? No thanks.

He is undefeated at Churchill. The fans there will love it. That's why he is 5/1 ML.

[AirNate012]

Originally Posted by yankeelpn

Guess you were talikng about McCraken?

Yes. 5/1 is too low. I don't see him going off lower than Always Dreaming.

[AirNate012]

Originally Posted by yankeelpn

That 15-1 wont last, Ill guess between 6-1 - 8-1

I don't see him going that low. Maybe 12/1 at the lowest.

[PowerUpPaynter]

I dont see Hence going off lower than McCraken and I dont see McCraken going off lower than 9-1. The morning line is way off. I just dont see 4 horses going off at 6-1 or lower.