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01-28-2017, 07:07 PM
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Federal Court Strikes a Big Blow Against Gerrymandering
Federal Court Strikes a Big Blow Against Gerrymandering
https://www.thenation.com/article/de...errymandering/
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01-28-2017, 07:12 PM
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Thank God -- I've lost sleep over this issue.
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01-28-2017, 09:39 PM
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Constitutional Amendment
"The boundaries of all Congressional districts, or any other political district, precinct, or area shall run North to South unless such boundary is the border of an adjoining state or of the United States."
That should take care of it.
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01-28-2017, 09:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maddog42
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The Repugs are appealing.
The Dems will filibuster the confirmation of any Trump nominee to the court, so the court will remain 4-4.
In a tie the decision of the lower court stands.
So the Dems will bring similar suits in the other red states. The Repugs will do likewise in blue states.
Result: A blue house (and possibly a blue senate) in 2019.
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01-28-2017, 10:00 PM
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Just another Facist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Actor
The Repugs are appealing.
The Dems will filibuster the confirmation of any Trump nominee to the court, so the court will remain 4-4.
In a tie the decision of the lower court stands.
So the Dems will bring similar suits in the other red states. The Repugs will do likewise in blue states.
Result: A blue house (and possibly a blue senate) in 2019.
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You never heard of the Nuke option that Harry Reid invoked? Here it comes again.........
Trump will get his nominee
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01-29-2017, 10:18 AM
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I just hope that if gerrymandering for Republican districts goes away then it must also be eradicated for black districts also. It would be disgusting if they allowed gerrymandering because of the Civil Rights Act. Everyone on here knows that districts have been created to increase black membership, both at the state and federal levels.
Allowing ONLY oddly drawn districts to get more black politicians would then have to be a constitutional violation against white people. I bet blacks would be up in arms if they did away with their "safe" districts and their share plummeted.
You can't have it both ways moonbats.
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01-29-2017, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
You never heard of the Nuke option that Harry Reid invoked? Here it comes again.........
Trump will get his nominee
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Yes he will, the nuclear option will be used if it comes to that.
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01-29-2017, 10:21 AM
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I was thinking the same thing. Since when is gerrymandering a Republican sin? Some of the most egregiously head-scratching shaped districts are represented by Dems.
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01-29-2017, 10:43 AM
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We should definitely work towards eliminating all gerrymandering.
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01-29-2017, 11:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
We should definitely work towards eliminating all gerrymandering.
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It is always to the advantage of the political party in power. I'm hopeful that this becomes an issue for the Trump administration. We need some of those clever math whizzes from MIT and Cal Tech to come up with an equitable process based on population that is not manipulatable by politicians.
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01-29-2017, 12:20 PM
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The way the press secretary explained this morning, unless I missed something, was that the judges order only applies to those that were in route at the time Trump signed the executive order.
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01-29-2017, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zico20
I just hope that if gerrymandering for Republican districts goes away then it must also be eradicated for black districts also. It would be disgusting if they allowed gerrymandering because of the Civil Rights Act. Everyone on here knows that districts have been created to increase black membership, both at the state and federal levels.
Allowing ONLY oddly drawn districts to get more black politicians would then have to be a constitutional violation against white people. I bet blacks would be up in arms if they did away with their "safe" districts and their share plummeted.
You can't have it both ways moonbats.
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Gerrymandering works two ways. Either you draw districts that are heavily black, in essence conceding a seat but making sure they won't have influence in multiple districts, or breaking up a black area by putting it in multiple districts so their vote is diluted. Either way it is meant to minimize black influence in an election. Same thing is true if you substitute Democrat for black.
As a hypothetical say you have a state with 3.5 million people and five congressional districts. Say two million are democrats and 1.5 million are republicans. Theoretically, 3 seats should be democrat, 2 republican. However, a republican house has drawn lines to cluster democrats in one district but disperse them over the other four so that the republicans get a 4 seat to 1 edge. That's the power of gerrymandering.
The point is to avoid what they now have in Wisconsin - drawing districts to favor one party. Breaking up neighborhoods in order to favor one party is supposed to be avoided.
If you look at how most states where there is one party dominance in the legislature draw their district lines, it is to favor their party. Not surprising the people who believe they are getting screwed want the lines to be drawn differently.
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01-29-2017, 02:40 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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The point is to avoid what they now have in Wisconsin - drawing districts to favor one party. Breaking up neighborhoods in order to favor one party is supposed to be avoided.
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Oh, like this is something new?
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01-29-2017, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Oh, like this is something new?
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Apparently in Republican world, yes
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01-29-2017, 07:22 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Oh, so for decades, it has only been a democrat action?
I thought so.
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