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Old 07-02-2016, 05:16 PM   #1
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Review of Pace View

When I emailed Greg, asking if the program accepted JCapper files, he sent me a free copy, no strings attached, so I could find out. The program did take JCapper files, and they didn't do badly. Since I decided to use the program, I sent him the $35 anyway; fair is fair.

I wondered how the program would do with BRIS files, so I tested it with both. BRIS files work better, but JCapper files also work well.

Understand that this isn't a magic winning machine. It's also not a full-featured program. It focuses on recent speed and pace, with a few one-click spot plays tossed in. Those who want a fuller-featured program might try HTR, HSH, or JCapper itself. What the program does do is concentrate on its focus areas, and it does that well. It provides a different view than other programs do. In my opinion, the view is valid, while not being the final word, and it is useful if it's viewed in that regard.

The program itself accepts BRIS single files, Multicaps, and JCapper files. It allows for manual scratching. It has a proprietary power rating and can also do a full-card list of the top E1, E2, Late, and within 2.5 lengths finish. There is a lot of information in the output. There are also a handful of spot plays built in. The player can use the full-card listing buttons and create his/her spot plays from that.

As for performance, the program has its good and bad days, like any other program. While it finds a lot of short-priced horses, it also finds its fair share of longer-prices. A user who looks for plays with value (overlays) can probably make a profit. Players who use other programs may find this useful for offering another view of a race.

BRIS vs JCapper: The program was written to use BRIS files, and its ratings are probably better-balanced to the relative ratings of that file type. JCapper ratings tend to have a different balance; for example, if using the program side by side with both file types, the Late ratings generated with BRIS tend to be way different than those generated by JCapper. That said, based on my limited samples, JCapper files do occasionally find things that BRIS files don't. Where one file type has the winner and the other doesn't, JCapper file exclusive winners tend to be shorter-priced, but not every time; they do get some longer-priced winners.

CONCLUSION: The program is seriously under-priced. I've bought programs costing a lot more that did a lot less. For $35, it's hard to go wrong.
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:42 AM   #2
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Thanks for your review. The Pace View software sounds interesting. Can you tell me who Greg is and where one would find some information on this software on the web? Thanks
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Thanks for your review. The Pace View software sounds interesting. Can you tell me who Greg is and where one would find some information on this software on the web? Thanks
http://www.pace-view.com/

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Lad Report

Just an example, I played pace-view best bets Fri and Sat at Lad,

The results as follows:



7/1 1st Joe Chase 6.80 3.80 2.80

4th Fore Mary 6.40 3.40 2.40

6th Due to Pleasure out



7/2 1st Saintly Dip 0.00 4.60 3.40

2nd Lass Channel 2.40 2.10 2.10

3rd Social Factor 5.60 3.00 2.20



based on a $2 win bet, I wagered $12 and got back $21.20, not bad in anybody’s book. No thinking involved, I just place a win bet on all the best bets, takes 5 min.
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Old 07-06-2016, 04:47 PM   #5
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To answer a question that's come up a few times: the DRF and the MCP (BRIS Single and Multicaps) files produce the exact same readout in Pace View, because the data fields the program reads are identical. I don't know if that's also true of the old TSN EG files, but I doubt it, since they used figures from a different source.

Note that JCP files have different ratings and figures (from HDW) and will provide different readouts than the BRIS files do.

Here is an example of the same race with MCP and DRF files:

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Old 07-06-2016, 05:00 PM   #6
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Thank you Tom for the review, very nice...and Dr G and greenie.

This is an e-mail I received a couple days ago from a gentleman--he picked up on a profitable wagering method with Pace View pretty quick--he did a little studying first:

Hi

Used the program from July 1st through the 4th - came up with a track model for both.

At Monmouth, your two power numbers were the best - if I were to bet your number 1 and 2 power numbers, would of caught 18 of 36. Your BB would have 6 of 15. And this was pure vanilla. Plan to go back and look for various spot plays but the start would be to key in on your best bets/two high power numbers and go from there.

At Belmont, only the two high power numbers did anything - 16 of 29. Again, if your start with these two horses, you can then go from there.

With these 8 races completed, I can start to look for the spot plays mentioned at your web site. Just have to find the right formula for these two tracks

Looked at boxing the two top power numbers in an exacta - would have caught 2 at Monmouth but one was for &80.

At Belmont, would have caught 4 of 29 and still make money.

Again, thanks - will keep you posted


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I finally saved up enough pennies and popped for this expensive software. Looking forward to checking it out.
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RPM Handicapping will soon be knocking at your door.
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That went way over my head.
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Don't answer. I have RPG optimum, about a $400 program and pace view beats it head to head almost every day. Plus pace view is much faster and simple to use.
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Lad Report

From my previous post I started tracking Pace-View's best bets at LaD, (since I'm there every day) from July 1. With no handicapping or thinking involved, I will just place a $2 win bet on every PV best Bet.

The results from 7/1 to 7/10 are as follows:
12 wins from 21 bets -57% win percentage

$42 bet and $59.40 $2 win mutual return for about a 42% ROI. I will continue and see how this plays out longer term if anyone is interested.
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From my previous post I started tracking Pace-View's best bets at LaD, (since I'm there every day) from July 1. With no handicapping or thinking involved, I will just place a $2 win bet on every PV best Bet.

The results from 7/1 to 7/10 are as follows:
12 wins from 21 bets -57% win percentage

$42 bet and $59.40 $2 win mutual return for about a 42% ROI. I will continue and see how this plays out longer term if anyone is interested.
I'm going to do the same @ Mth starting today I'll report back after I have 40-50 BB
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I'm going to do the same @ Mth starting today I'll report back after I have 40-50 BB
We would then have a basis for track to track comparison. I will not include off tracks and off turf races since this program seems to do its best on fast tracks
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If pace is your thing then this is a nice little tool to add
to your arsenal.
The software is well meant and is easy and fun to use.
Greg is a nice guy and his software is a bargain at the price.
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