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Old 01-29-2016, 10:12 PM   #1
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Georgia closer to horse racing

Georgia took the first step to allow pari mutuel wagering. The voters get the chance this November to legalize it. Can Atlanta support a track? Will the voters even pass it.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/b...committee.html
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:08 PM   #2
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Good luck with that...

I mean, I am not sure what Atlanta/Georgian demographic would be much interested in it, long term..?
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:42 PM   #3
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Good luck with that...

I mean, I am not sure what Atlanta/Georgian demographic would be much interested in it, long term..?
The only hope is the many transplanted northerners in the ATL metro area will take interest.
The one advantage an Atlanta area track would have is there is no other form of wagering in any of the neighboring states except,NC has one Casino and Alabama has two to three dog tracks.
Other than the Harrah's Cherokee Casino some 4 hours by car from ATL, there really isn't much on which to bet anywhere near.
South Carolina and for the most part North Carolina have no legal form of wagering. Tennessee actually did legalize pari mutuel wagering but no business entity wever did bother to build a track. There are no gambling venues in Tennessee...
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:43 PM   #4
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I would love to see it happen. I would install lights and run Mon Tue Wed with a 5 PM eastern post. Take advantage of open slots in simulcast hours. Get young people in charge and make it a nice place to be for happy hour.

Name? Peach Park? Bulldog downs?
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:57 PM   #5
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The only hope is the many transplanted northerners in the ATL metro area will take interest.
The one advantage an Atlanta area track would have is there is no other form of wagering in any of the neighboring states except,NC has one Casino and Alabama has two to three dog tracks..
The dog tracks in AL are still open? They were on the last leg in early 2000s
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:13 AM   #6
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I would love to see it happen. I would install lights and run Mon Tue Wed with a 5 PM eastern post. Take advantage of open slots in simulcast hours. Get young people in charge and make it a nice place to be for happy hour.

Name? Peach Park? Bulldog downs?
This theory of "racing when no one else is" has been widely debunked. Everyone has kind of figured out you need other tracks to piggy back off of. Racing when no one else does generally means a much, much smaller pool of money to get.
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:28 AM   #7
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This theory of "racing when no one else is" has been widely debunked. Everyone has kind of figured out you need other tracks to piggy back off of. Racing when no one else does generally means a much, much smaller pool of money to get.
Ok....Fine.
So a question for you..
Under which category do you fall
A) Can do..
B Why should we?
Your turn.
Tut tut...Just answer the question. You have two choices, A or B...
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:30 AM   #8
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The dog tracks in AL are still open? They were on the last leg in early 2000s
Yep...
Check it out....
http://www.birminghamracecourse.com/liveracingmain.html
BTW, I went to this place when they ran horses.
It was a very nice track...
I went for the first time Preakness Day 1991. The place was pretty full.
About 8,000 people....
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Ok....Fine.
So a question for you..
Under which category do you fall
A) Can do..
B Why should we?
Your turn.
Tut tut...Just answer the question. You have two choices, A or B...
A. The should race on Saturdays like everyone else
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Old 01-30-2016, 07:08 AM   #10
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With a noon post; first out every day. In a spring meet that coincides with Oaklawn and Tampa closing. Maybe a QH horse-oriented late fall meet that opens around BC weekend. There's a surprising number of QH people throughout the south that would appreciate racing closer to home.
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The only hope is the many transplanted northerners in the ATL metro area will take interest.
The one advantage an Atlanta area track would have is there is no other form of wagering in any of the neighboring states except,NC has one Casino and Alabama has two to three dog tracks.
Other than the Harrah's Cherokee Casino some 4 hours by car from ATL, there really isn't much on which to bet anywhere near.
South Carolina and for the most part North Carolina have no legal form of wagering. Tennessee actually did legalize pari mutuel wagering but no business entity wever did bother to build a track. There are no gambling venues in Tennessee...
Perhaps a glitter-destination type of OTB might work there in the Atlanta area, but what with Horse Racing just struggling to stay alive everywhere else in the nation, I just don't see how it would be any different in GA even if they ever did build a racetrack... As a business person, I would never back an operation of that sort anywhere, nowadays, especially in the Peach State....

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Old 01-30-2016, 09:41 AM   #12
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IF you gentlemen have read the HANA magazine, in the thread provided by Greg R, here in the racing folder, as I have done. You will observe that there is a Google map showing the thoroughbred racetracks and the harness tracks.

http://horseplayersassociation.org/feb16issue.pdf

There's still a glut of them, the majority of which are slowly dying. Forgive me for believing that there ain't a snowball's chance in hell that a new and shiny one being built in Atlanta is gonna fly. As you'll see the Southeast has forever been no man's land when it comes to horse race betting. Bible belt and all like that.

Now, if you wanna open a string of convenient marts to sell gas, lottery tickets and 24 oz cans of Colt 45....know that any major commercial lender would extend you 100% financing. You'll be sitting on a gold mine.
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This theory of "racing when no one else is" has been widely debunked. Everyone has kind of figured out you need other tracks to piggy back off of. Racing when no one else does generally means a much, much smaller pool of money to get.
So, you're saying to run in the summer months on Thur Fri Sat when 24 other tracks are running?

Yeah, that works out very well for the Canterbury's with a day time card
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:37 PM   #14
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Anyone who builds a racetrack in 2016 that doesn't have a casino attached to it must be out of their minds. Even if you could eke out a profit, there are still hundreds of better uses for the land.
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Anyone who builds a racetrack in 2016 that doesn't have a casino attached to it must be out of their minds. Even if you could eke out a profit, there are still hundreds of better uses for the land.
And Cast, wouldn't you think, for sure, land in and around Atlanta would surely be at a premium. Bet all those family owned farms held for generations are now subdivisions or malls.
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