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Old 09-04-2014, 07:31 PM   #1
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HRTV analysts...best handicapper

If you had to pick one from Vercruysse, Cadman, White, Free, or Siegel who do you think is best.
I feel Jeff Siegel is by far the best...
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:08 PM   #2
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Tough to come up with a winner there.
I have noticed Veracruyse likes to make picks with larger odds.
Ok by me....I like it.
As far as Im concerned, all of the HRTV on camera people do a good job.
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:41 PM   #3
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I like Siegel and Vercruysse in the afternoon followed up with Kurt Hoover in the evening.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:38 PM   #4
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vercruysse

Does go for bombs away which is fine but he tends to really reach on occasion.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:45 PM   #5
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Siegel.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:48 PM   #6
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Michelle Yu...gets streky at times
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Old 09-05-2014, 03:05 AM   #7
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I always seem to pick up interesting stuff when Zoey Cadman and Scott Hazelton work together. And Jon White, while on the chalky side, offers solid info too.

But the other hosts on HRTV are good too.

One thing for sure - HRTV staff don't annoy like TVG's crew. The other night I'm listening to Simon Bray and he likes the #1 horse in the Oak Tree Juvenile Turf on closing day at Del Mar. The horse (Daddy D T, 8-1 morning line) is 4-1 with a few minutes to post. So The Todd says something about Simon's horse getting action at the windows. Bray says he likes Daddy D T at 5-1 but may pass at 4-1. Anybody believe Bray wasn't BS'ing about passing at 4-1?

Anyway, Daddy D T won and paid $7.20. Probably because Bray bet him heavy at 5-2.
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:17 AM   #8
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I've seen Aaron hit multiple shots that paid $50 and higher...hes big on pace
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:33 AM   #9
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:50 AM   #10
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when i like a horse and i see public handicappers pick the same horse i know i am in trouble before i start. a lot of times when i see the public handicapper's picks i go searching into the race and find something else. that system seems to work.

that being said this past Del Mar meet, i found that a lot of the time the TVG handicapper's were on the same first time starter's that i was on, and i had a big meet there this year. but when i say that, they might have 3 different opinions on the same race and 1 of the handicapper's would land on the same number as myself. they might have been getting their information as i did and i don't know how they got it.

i always refer back to what my mother taught me, those that tell don't know and those that know don't tell. in horse racing that is more true than anything else.
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:03 AM   #11
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when i like a horse and i see public handicappers pick the same horse i know i am in trouble before i start. a lot of times when i see the public handicapper's picks i go searching into the race and find something else. that system seems to work.

that being said this past Del Mar meet, i found that a lot of the time the TVG handicapper's were on the same first time starter's that i was on, and i had a big meet there this year. but when i say that, they might have 3 different opinions on the same race and 1 of the handicapper's would land on the same number as myself. they might have been getting their information as i did and i don't know how they got it.

i always refer back to what my mother taught me, those that tell don't know and those that know don't tell. in horse racing that is more true than anything else.
The last paragraph is so ironic that I almost can't stand it.
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:15 AM   #12
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Anyway, Daddy D T won and paid $7.20. Probably because Bray bet him heavy at 5-2.
Do you really think Simon Bray is that big a player?
It would take quite a few thousand $ to cause that shift.

What kind of salaries are they paying those guys, anyway?
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:34 PM   #13
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For consistency that's not always chalk, Jeff Siegal. Teaming him with Aaron Vercruysse was brillance.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:19 PM   #14
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tvg salaries

TVG will need to pay Britney Eurton or she will be soon off to bigger and better NBC national broadcasts and the like. Time for TVG to pay up Scrupp makes too much as it is.
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Old 09-06-2014, 02:04 AM   #15
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Now I can comment on this one. My wife and I are big fans of HRTV. In fact, I tracked the first 6 months or so of the Daymakers. The results were Aaron 17 winners from 122 picks 14.9% winners for $221.90 Jeff was 26 of 121 picks 21.4% winners for $184.00. If you bet $2 on every daymaker you'd be a loser. But who does that? Not us.

Aaron does love the long shots and my wife did hit one of his picks for $52!

Both of these guys are very good. We love Brad Free and write down Kurt's pick 4 every Friday night! Michelle Yu is great and you have to remember Zoe's picks.

TVG, not so much, but we do love when they zoom in on the PP's and circle the important stuff.
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