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Old 07-14-2014, 10:42 AM   #1
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Eric Holder finally addresses the big problems

The DOJ has sent an investigator to Norfolk, NE, to look into a July 4th parade float that featured an outhouse labelled "Obama Presidential Library".

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The department sent a member of its Community Relations Service team, which gets involved in discrimination disputes, to a Thursday meeting about the issue. Also at the meeting were the NAACP, the Norfolk mayor and The Independent Order of Odd Fellows.

The Odd Fellows organized the parade. One of the floats included a zombie-like mannequin standing near an outhouse labeled “Obama Presidential Library.”


The float’s creator, Dale Remmich, has said the mannequin depicted himself, not President Barack Obama. He said he is upset with the president’s handling of the Veterans Affairs Department.

You wonder what goes through their minds.
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Old 07-14-2014, 11:07 AM   #2
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http://news.yahoo.com/eric-holder-st...165007249.html

Holder also stood firm on his refusal to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS, which faces allegations that Lois Lerner, a former agency official, covered up its targeting of conservative non-profit groups.

Holder said that a special prosecutor is not necessary because FBI agents are “doing a good, professional job.”

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Yep. They're doing a good, professional job of delaying, denying, and deleting the facts in multiple scandals, especially the IRS mess. The more politically ideological an administrator is, the more likely he is to break the law in order to have an outcome he or she desires.

The overt harassment of the conservative groups by the IRS was no act of incompetence. It was a deliberate process of denying those organizations a legitimate voice in the election process. Holder, Lerner and Obama are all three smug, self righteous extremists who believe the end they seek justifies the means, regardless how much those means violate the rights of the American citizens they oppose. Keep your eyes on the IRS scandal. That's the one that will tell all about this administration and "all the president's men"....... and women.


We are a nation of cowards but not for the reasons Holder asserts. We cannot speak freely about issues because when one does, they are labeled RACIST. I'd love to ask the peace-loving Muslims why they are not vocally condemning the radical who hurt/kill people but to do so must make me a racist. I'd like us to ask the newly elected leader of a national teacher's organization why she addressed her group speaking Spanish knowing full-well that the vast majority of the people in the room didn't speak Spanish - but to do so would make me a racist. I'd like to know why 70% of African American babies are born to single mothers (it's 50% for all babies - sad) but to do so must make me a racist. I'd like to know why it's not racist for a political party to assume minorities are not capable of obtaining ID to vote. We DO have a lot of work to do and until and unless we can have real discussions from ALL sides, we will continue to see the divide that Holder counts on.
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Old 07-14-2014, 11:13 AM   #3
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The DOJ has sent an investigator to Norfolk, NE, to look into a July 4th parade float that featured an outhouse labelled "Obama Presidential Library".
Another direct attack on the First Amendment.
So what is if WAS Obama standing there?

The DOJ is a complete joke and waste of money.
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Old 07-14-2014, 11:48 AM   #4
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We DO have a lot of work to do and until and unless we can have real discussions from ALL sides, we will continue to see the divide that Holder counts on.
That would be the divide that Holder creates. He is the most divisive official in the federal government within memory. And he appears to be totally clueless about how much of it he brings on himself. Like Obama, nothing is ever his fault, so it must be racism.

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“For whatever reason, [some] Republicans decided early on that this was a president they were just simply not going to cooperate with,” Holder said.
Not so. A lot of Republicans decided early on that many of his policies were unacceptable as proposed, such as more gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others. These were issues Republicans and many independents had opposed for years, and they determined early on that Obama was not willing to cooperate on them. The lack of cooperation on the right was an effect, not a cause.

Obama did not and does not understand how the office of the president operate. It operates on consensus, not on command. All of the effective presidents in recent years were not only great deal makers, they enjoyed the process. Obama hates the very idea of compromise, and goes off and pouts if he doesn't get his way.
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Not so. A lot of Republicans decided early on that many of his policies were unacceptable as proposed, such as more gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others. These were issues Republicans and many independents had opposed for years, and they determined early on that Obama was not willing to cooperate on them. The lack of cooperation on the right was an effect, not a cause.

Obama did not and does not understand how the office of the president operate. It operates on consensus, not on command. All of the effective presidents in recent years were not only great deal makers, they enjoyed the process. Obama hates the very idea of compromise, and goes off and pouts if he doesn't get his way.
At least Obama didn't forget why he was elected president twice!

It may be news to you, Clocker, but Obama won the majority of the votes in both elections in part because of his stance on issues like "gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others".

So tell us again who exactly is pouting and not compromising?
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At least Obama didn't forget why he was elected president twice!

It may be news to you, Clocker, but Obama won the majority of the votes in both elections in part because of his stance on issues like "gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others".

So tell us again who exactly is pouting and not compromising?
you really believe people went to the polls and voted for Obama for cap and trade? For Obamacare benefits?

Or maybe most people voted party line and/or are takers of the govt dole.

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So tell us again who exactly is pouting and not compromising?
Seriously?
It is Obama.
I thought that was pretty obvious.
Unless he is lying all the time.
Which is it.....ineffective or a liar?
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you really believe people went to the polls and voted for Obama for cap and trade? For Obamacare benefits?

Or maybe most people voted party line and/or are takers of the govt dole.
You can deny all you want. Independents determine national elections.
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Seriously?
It is Obama.
I thought that was pretty obvious.
Unless he is lying all the time.
Which is it.....ineffective or a liar?
Here's a tip. If you think it's obvious, do yourself a favor and think again.
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Obama won the majority of the votes in both elections in part because of his stance on issues like "gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others".
How many people that voted for Obama really knew what his stance on those issues were, and what the details of this policies would do?

Very few. People didn't vote for Obama's gun control plans, they voted for his empty promise that there would never again be a school shooting in this country, something none of his proposals could come close to accomplishing.

People didn't vote for ObamaCare, they voted for a fraudulent promise of a magic pill that would reduce their insurance costs by $2500 a year and would let them keep their current plan and their current doctor. Period.

People didn't vote for cap and trade. Most were totally clueless about what it was. They voted for an empty promise to slay a mythical dragon. They voted for a man who swore that the moment he was elected, the oceans would stop rising and the planet would begin to heal. They voted for a faith healer.

They were sold a bill of goods, and more and more people today are having buyer's remorse. The word is out, even in the liberal media: the emperor has no clothes.
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You wonder what goes through their minds.
Minds??
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Old 07-14-2014, 01:42 PM   #12
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Independents determine national elections.
That's true, but it is true for different reasons now than it was 20 years ago. The new generation of voters, the Millennials, more and more tend not to identify themselves in terms of political party. Technically, they are independents. Functionally, they are progressives. Unfortunately, they are low information voters (LIVs) who flocked to Obama on the basis of charisma and wild-eyed optimism. They are now back living in Mommy's basement, trying to figure out how to get a decent job with a fluff degree and how to get rid of their student loan debt. And what to do about health insurance when they turn 26 and get dropped from Mommy's policy.
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Here's a tip. If you think it's obvious, do yourself a favor and think again.
It is Obama who always whining that Congress will not work with him.
Sorry, your perception is biased too much politically to see the truth.
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It is Obama who always whining that Congress will not work with him.
And he is never in Washington when he starts whining about the inability to get anything done in Washington. He is always off somewhere making a speech on a college campus before attending a couple of Democratic fund raisers.
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Holder addresses the big problems? Let's start at the top, Holder is the big problem.
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