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View Poll Results: Does the pace melt down in Preakness 2014
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Yes......big time
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Slightly but closers are not worth a bet
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Nope, Closers have to be in your Tri Ticks though
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No way, Front runners gallop
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05-14-2014, 10:49 PM
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Just another Facist
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Any chance the Preakness pace melts down?
Any chance the pace takes its toll and the race melts down?
I am very interested to hear from our resident sharpies...........
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Last edited by JustRalph; 05-14-2014 at 10:51 PM.
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05-14-2014, 11:33 PM
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I voted no chance, IMO the class of the field are all speed or close stalker types, on a track that should be pretty friendly to them. Just don't see the quality of closer in here.
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05-15-2014, 12:52 AM
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Yes.
There are four horses that want to go in here.
General a Rod/Bayern/Social Inclusion/Pablo Del Monte all prefer the front end when racing this far.
Plus you can make a case that all four of the above mentioned could be counterfeit at any distance farther than 8.5 furlongs.
The pace should be hot Saturday.
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05-15-2014, 07:06 AM
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Slight chance but I think people are over estimating the fact. General A Rod was no where in the derby and really never gets the lead. Bayern is removing blinkers and stretching out. The fractions Bayern sets are usually really moderate with the blinkers on. and Pablo Del Monte may be sent but his previous races pretty much give him little hope of holding on. So Pablo may be winging it on a hope and a prayer. This could make a fast pace but he's probably a target for better horses. Social Inclusion is the fastest, rate able horse in here besides Chrome.........on this surface its looking like a two horse race. Running in the derby is usually a good indicator for this race so General A Rod may improve but he's no speed freak and Ride on Curlin is coming back but it looks like Chrome vs. SI. The other new shooters really offer no proof to like them. Meltdown is questionable to me but possible if the others feel its their only hope to beat Chrome. Slight chance.
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05-15-2014, 07:38 AM
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Delusional, compulsive liar and all around giant sack of shit
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Understatement of the year alert !!!!!
" arod / Pablo / SI / bayern may prove to be counterfeit at anything longer than 8.5 furlongs "
You think ? LOL
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05-15-2014, 07:40 AM
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Delusional, compulsive liar and all around giant sack of shit
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So your saying the fact they are taking blinkers off bayern means they are going to rate him ????
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05-15-2014, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
So your saying the fact they are taking blinkers off bayern means they are going to rate him ????
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Possibly, but he didn't exactly set the world on fire with them on. 46 3 going a mile in a stakes race and the Ark derby he got a fair pace. The only true speedball is probably Pablo and what are his chances? Not much......
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05-15-2014, 08:19 AM
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You don't have to sell me on the fact that Pablo has no chance or that bayern got a fair pace and still folded in Arkansas. You are preaching to the choir. I am just saying that you get add in SI to that group of speed horses that has no shot.
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05-15-2014, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
You don't have to sell me on the fact that Pablo has no chance or that bayern got a fair pace and still folded in Arkansas. You are preaching to the choir. I am just saying that you get add in SI to that group of speed horses that has no shot.
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He might outlast all the front-runners for a piece of the pie.
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05-15-2014, 12:28 PM
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Three "E" type horses with 21 Quirin speed points among them plus the 3/5 M/L Chrome who willl quite near them suggests Ride On Curlin to me for a small wager on the win end.
That said, I won't mind losing five bucks if Chrome can take the Triple Crown.
What a shot in the arm that would be for the sport!
Best,
Bill C
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05-15-2014, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Cullen
Three "E" type horses with 21 Quirin speed points among them plus the 3/5 M/L Chrome who willl quite near them suggests Ride On Curlin to me for a small wager on the win end.
That said, I won't mind losing five bucks if Chrome can take the Triple Crown.
What a shot in the arm that would be for the sport!
Best,
Bill C
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i am betting $25 to win on him with TVG giving me 3/2 odds. i might make a big show bet on him too if the track is right.
that's all TVG is taking per person.
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05-15-2014, 12:57 PM
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22.7
46.1
110.5
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Anybody care to guess?
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05-15-2014, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
i am betting $25 to win on him with TVG giving me 3/2 odds. i might make a big show bet on him too if the track is right.
that's all TVG is taking per person.
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I won't bet CC to win at 3/5. TVG gave 4/1 for the Derby, so that was fine, but 3/5 sucks. I'd rather put together a tri. on my own with CC on top.
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05-15-2014, 09:56 PM
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Mike Schultz
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
22.7
46.1
110.5
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Anybody care to guess?
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1:35.00
1:53.60
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05-15-2014, 10:26 PM
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looks like interesting opinions
this should be fun to watch anyway
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