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04-16-2014, 10:39 PM
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Just another Facist
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Hey Harry, is she real? Ask her Congressman
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Drops-Doctors
BRAIN SURGERY PATIENT'S OBAMACARE PLAN DENIES MEDS, DROPS DOCTORS
"Figueroa suffers from a disease known as Arnold Chiari Malformation and Syringomyelia. Even though the Obamacare plan she purchased assured her that she was covered, her insurance card was denied when she went to fill her prescriptions. Then she learned that none of her doctors accept her Obamacare plan. Figueroa says she cannot find a doctor who accepts her Obamacare plan; indeed, there are only six doctors in all of Staten Island who take her plan, none of whom she's been able to get appointments with.
Figueroa's congressman, Rep. Michael Grimm (R-NY), intervened to help her obtain some of her vital prescriptions. Grimm says he's already received calls from at least a dozen Staten Island residents facing the same problem with Obamacare's "narrow networks" – extreme restrictions to doctor and hospital access imposed by Obamacare.
"Even though the insurance company cashed your check, it doesn't mean it (the policy) has been implemented," said Grimm at a Wednesday press conference with Figueroa. "That's the problem – that the back end of Obamacare hasn't been fully built. You can go on the front end of an application and look at a list of plans, but what they don't tell you is that many of those plans don't have doctors yet."
Figueroa is not alone."
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04-16-2014, 11:04 PM
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Racing Form Detective
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Did she have insurance before the ACA? If so, who was her company?
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04-16-2014, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Did she have insurance before the ACA? If so, who was her company?
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What difference does it make???
Did you read the article?
"though the Obamacare plan she purchased assured her that she was covered".
Her previous insurance plan was obviously not of the quality of the ACA plan.....
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04-17-2014, 06:46 AM
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BO is thinning the herd.
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04-17-2014, 07:10 AM
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Racing Form Detective
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Originally Posted by newtothegame
What difference does it make???
Did you read the article?
"though the Obamacare plan she purchased assured her that she was covered".
Her previous insurance plan was obviously not of the quality of the ACA plan.....
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I doubt she had a plan before. Obviously the ACA hasn't gotten rid of the crooks in the insurance industry. Remember all the plans under the ACA are private companies or some sort of co-op. The government doesn't insure anybody unless they are in Medicare or Medicaid. Even with Medicaid, often the state pays for insurance with a private company. In Nebraska, Medicaid used United Health Care for some of it coverage in 2010 which is the last year I checked.
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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04-17-2014, 07:39 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Did she have insurance before the ACA? If so, who was her company?
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Irrelevant.
ASSCARE was supposed to fix this stuff.
It didn't.
People are going to die while this POS play politics and lies through his teeth.
And little twerps like Dingy Harry try to silence them.
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04-17-2014, 02:33 PM
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Goren, nice try
Where's the Gang of Four?
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04-17-2014, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Irrelevant.
ASSCARE was supposed to fix this stuff.
It didn't.
People are going to die while this POS play politics and lies through his teeth.
And little twerps like Dingy Harry try to silence them.
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The program is better than expected. It is just taking a little longer than expected in a very few areas because of the overwhelming interest. The majority of the people in the country will be much better off in a few years once all the kinks are worked out. The casualties along the way will be thought of as martyrs on the road to national health utopia.
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04-17-2014, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
The program is better than expected. It is just taking a little longer than expected in a very few areas because of the overwhelming interest. The majority of the people in the country will be much better off in a few years once all the kinks are worked out. The casualties along the way will be thought of as martyrs on the road to national health utopia.
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I call them victims of tyranny. Tomato......tomato......
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04-17-2014, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
I doubt she had a plan before. Obviously the ACA hasn't gotten rid of the crooks in the insurance industry. ...
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Gee, where have I heard that before...
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04-17-2014, 07:24 PM
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Apparently she had some kind of coverage before because she was able to get the surgeries and medication before and they talk about her PREVIOUS doctors.
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04-17-2014, 11:03 PM
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I'm sure we won't have to wait long before we find that all is not as it seems in this little story. But even if it is true, it's not like this kind of thing didn't happen all the time before the passage of Obamacare. In fact it happened more often. And there is nothing in the Affordable Care Act that caused this to occur. Nothing in the Act says insurance companies have to narrow their networks. Nothing says doctors have to stop seeing patients. Nothing prevents insurers from covering medications. All of this is happening because insurance companies can't figure out how operate in the new system.
In the meantime, a lot of good things have been happening.
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8 million people signed up for private insurance in the Health Insurance Marketplace. For states that have Federally-Facilitated Marketplaces, 35 percent of those who signed up are under 35 years old
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That is one million more than the most optimistic projections. 35% under the age of 35 is right in line with what happened in Massachusetts under Romneycare.
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5 million people are enrolled in plans that meet ACA standards outside the Marketplace, according to a CBO estimate. When insurers set premiums for next year, they are required to look at everyone who enrolled in plans that meet ACA standards, both on and off the Marketplace.
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Health care costs are growing at the slowest level on record: Since the law passed, real per capita health care spending is estimated to have grown at the lowest rate on record for any three-year period and less than one-third the long-term historical average stretching back to 1960. This slower growth in spending is reflected in Medicare, Medicaid, and private insurance.
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CBO projects the deficit will shrink more and premiums will be lower than expected: CBO previously estimated that the ACA will reduce the deficit by $1.7 trillion over two decades, and, just this week, CBO concluded that lower-than-expected Marketplace premiums and other recent developments will cut $104 billion from our deficit over the next ten years. The CBO report also projects that lower-than-expected premiums will help to save $5 billion this year, and that lower premiums will persist in the years ahead, remaining 15 percent below projections by 2016 (the only year in which CBO provides a precise estimate).
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Medicare spending growth is down: Medicare per capita spending is growing at historically low rates. This week, for the fifth straight year, the CBO reduced its projections for Medicare spending over the next 10 years – this time by $106 billion. CBO projects that Medicare and Medicaid costs in 2020 will be $180 billion below its 2010 estimates. Recent economic research suggests that the ACA’s reforms to Medicare may have “spillover effects” that reduce costs and improve quality across the health care system, not just in Medicare.
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But all of this good news is offset by one person losing her coverage.
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04-17-2014, 11:14 PM
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True, there is nothing saying doctors can not see their patients. But many doctors will not be able to have their patients bill paid by the ACA insurance policies. So apparently there are many doctors (and hospitals) that do not meet the acceptable ACA requirements.
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04-17-2014, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by newtothegame
What difference does it make???
Did you read the article?
"though the Obamacare plan she purchased assured her that she was covered".
Her previous insurance plan was obviously not of the quality of the ACA plan.....
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There is no such thing as an Obamacare plan. Every time Breitbart uses that phrase they are lying to you. Medicare Medicaid and CHIP are the only health plans that have a government component.
Plans sold on the exchanges are private plans. Private companies set the premiums. Private companies set the benefits. Private companies determine the co-pays and deductibles. The government, federal and states, provide a virtual shopping mall for those companies to do business in.
If the private company that Figueroa bought insurance from told he she was covered and now she is not; it is that company which is responsible for making her whole. It is that company that deceived her.
Any Republican congressman will say anything to discredit the ACA. It's in their DNA.
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04-17-2014, 11:32 PM
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So, who gets to choose ? I mean, since you are suddenly fine with this lady dying, suffering etcetera. Who gets to decide?
First these things weren't happening. But now that they are, you're just fine with it as long as the greater good and the movement isn't impeded.
You are disgusting. You know, you are only a few steps away from the death panels at this point.
I seem to recall you bringing up "empathy" in another thread. What a joke
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