Top 10 Pitchers of All Time

[Rookies]

Since, we're running out the lists, here are mine:


1.Cy Young


2.Walter Johnson


3.Grover Cleveland Alexander


4.Roger Clemens


5.Bob Gibson


6.Greg Maddux


7.Sandy Koufax


8.Lefty Grove


9.Tom Seaver


10.Satchel Paige


10a. Mo Rivera

[PhantomOnTour]

Warren Spahn always gets left off

[wiffleball whizz]

Pedro is on this list as well as randy Johnson too....

There are some real stiff boxes on this list

[cj's dad]

Jim Palmer not on the list ? really !

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by cj's dad

Jim Palmer not on the list ? really !

I know you're an Orioles fan, but Palmer?

[JustRalph]

Nolan Ryan ? Not on the list?

Bob Gibson was one of my Favs. Loved his brush back pitches.

Seaver was incredible too.

[precocity]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Nolan Ryan ? Not on the list?

Bob Gibson was one of my Favs. Loved his brush back pitches.

Seaver was incredible too.

exactly no nolan ryan?

[cj's dad]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

I know you're an Orioles fan, but Palmer?

Yeah, he stunk it up. 8 - 20 win seasons in 9 years, and in 1975 he won 23 with 25 complete games; repeat 25 complete games and 10 of his 23 wins were shutouts.

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by cj's dad

Yeah, he stunk it up. 8 - 20 win seasons in 9 years, and in 1975 he won 23 with 25 complete games; repeat 25 complete games and 10 of his 23 wins were shutouts.

Ferguson Jenkins : 7 - 20+ win seasons, 8 - 20+ complete game seasons including a 30 complete game season, 6 - 200+ strikeout seasons, only 37 walks in 325 innings in 1971 (led league), 5 seasons with 300+ innings pitched.
An outstanding hitter for a pitcher as well. Batted .243 with 6 home runs in 115 at-bats in 1971 with 20 RBI's.
Jenkins did not make the top ten list nor did Bob Gibson as Ralph eluded to. Gibson was a far better pitcher than Palmer on any day of the week imo.
Palmer could sell men's underwear better than any baseball player on the planet, I'll hand ya that much, Dad.

[cj's dad]

Ya got me there MB

BTW- Gibson was my fave pitcher of all time

[green80]

I agree, Bob Gibson. One of the best, ever. Would pitch well on 2-3 days rest. Played basketball a year for the Harlem Globetrotters.

[redshift1]

Clemens inclusion a question mark with the PED's.

[Rookies]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

Ferguson Jenkins : 7 - 20+ win seasons, 8 - 20+ complete game seasons including a 30 complete game season, 6 - 200+ strikeout seasons, only 37 walks in 325 innings in 1971 (led league), 5 seasons with 300+ innings pitched.
An outstanding hitter for a pitcher as well. Batted .243 with 6 home runs in 115 at-bats in 1971 with 20 RBI's.
Jenkins did not make the top ten list nor did Bob Gibson as Ralph eluded to. Gibson was a far better pitcher than Palmer on any day of the week imo.
Palmer could sell men's underwear better than any baseball player on the planet, I'll hand ya that much, Dad.

5.Bob Gibson

Did you miss that??

I'm old school.... very old school about Baseball. Have seen Burns' masterpiece more than once and read many books, articles, etc. on the subject. The early oldtimers dominate- because they did, hundreds of Ws, complete games, back to backs, etc.

Take Johnson for example, from Wiki:

"One of the most celebrated and dominating players in baseball history, Johnson established several pitching records, some of which remain unbroken. He remains by far the all-time career leader in shutouts with 110,[2] second in wins with 417, and fourth in complete games with 531. He once held the career record in strikeouts with 3,508 and was the only player in the 3,000 strikeout club for over 50 years until Bob Gibson recorded his 3,000th strikeout in 1974. Johnson led the league in strikeouts a Major League record 12 times—one more than current strikeout leader Nolan Ryan—including a record eight consecutive seasons. In a 21-year career, Johnson had twelve 20-win seasons, including ten in a row. Twice, he topped thirty wins (33 in 1912 and 36 in 1913).[10] Johnson's record includes 110 shutouts, the most in baseball history. Johnson had a 38–26 record in games decided by a 1–0 score;[11] both his win total and his losses in these games are major league records. Johnson also lost 65 games because his teams failed to score a run

Would have included Ryan, Spahn, Jenkins, Pedro & even Palmer in the Top 25, but not 10. The only reason Satchel isn't higher is because of Racism. He would have been cinch Top 5 if he got in as a kid.

[cj]

Not top 10 all time (like I know anything about Cy Young and Walter Johnson...maybe me Dad can help there!), but Ron Guidry was as dominant for one season in 1978 as any pitcher I can remember, and he had a nice career overall.

[Tom]

Holy Cow! Guidry was Superman for the Yanks.
He tops my list because I watched every game that year.