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08-12-2016, 03:58 PM
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#2266
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Rising stock prices don't create economic growth or new jobs. And they don't indicate the achievement any of the promises of this administration. In this particular economy, they are a sign that investors are reluctant to put their money into new ventures, and instead are relying on existing stocks for returns on investment. They also signify that a lot of big companies are buying back their own stock rather than spend the money for expansion.
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I knew you could put a bad spin on it. Of course, you overlook the problem we now have with the jobs being created going overseas instead of in the US. Reluctant investors don't buy stocks and push prices up. Buying back stock to most others is a good sign. A company won't buy back their stock if they know it's a bad investment. Economist you're not.
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08-12-2016, 03:59 PM
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#2267
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Originally Posted by davew
that would actually mean something if they did not keep changing what goes into the indexes. 0bama and Hilary are on the right track, money for nothing - it is too bad you have to be a close friend of theirs to get the same treatment.
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You must have had a double dose of Kool Aid.
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08-12-2016, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
Of course, you overlook the problem we now have with the jobs being created going overseas instead of in the US.
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You overlook the fact that they are going overseas under a Democratic administration that has hugely increased the regulatory burden on the private sector. Not that the previous administration was much better, but Obama is making it a lot worse.
Businesses are relocating off-shore due to labor costs. But those costs are also driven up by government regulations like minimum wages, ObamaCare, and federal rules like the new Obama requirements for over time pay.
But businesses also relocate because of regulatory burdens and because of import tariffs on the materials they use as inputs and export tariffs on the final products they export. In addition to labor costs, tariffs played a big role in Ford's decision to build a new plant in Mexico rather than here.
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More than $22 billion per year in new regulatory costs were imposed on Americans last year, pushing the total burden for the Obama years to exceed $100 billion annually.
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http://dailysignal.com/2016/05/23/20...ma-presidency/
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08-12-2016, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
You overlook the fact that they are going overseas under a Democratic administration that has hugely increased the regulatory burden on the private sector. Not that the previous administration was much better, but Obama is making it a lot worse.
Businesses are relocating off-shore due to labor costs. But those costs are also driven up by government regulations like minimum wages, ObamaCare, and federal rules like the new Obama requirements for over time pay.
But businesses also relocate because of regulatory burdens and because of import tariffs on the materials they use as inputs and export tariffs on the final products they export. In addition to labor costs, tariffs played a big role in Ford's decision to build a new plant in Mexico rather than here.
http://dailysignal.com/2016/05/23/20...ma-presidency/
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Bunches and bunches of illogical statements. They go overseas because they can labor cheap -- period.
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08-12-2016, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
Bunches and bunches of illogical statements.
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All I see from you is bunches and bunches of unsupported opinions without facts.
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08-12-2016, 06:01 PM
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Lighten up its Friday.
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08-12-2016, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
Not only that, those shovel ready jobs will go to no bid contracts and cost double/triple to get a third of the job done - but the company will donate heavily for the next round of DIMocrats - the house building in Haiti shows how corrupt Clintons can be.
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When I lived in California I remember those "Put America to Work" projects 6 years ago or whenever it was. Some of the stupidest waste of money crap you could imagine. Sound barrier walls next to the freeway that weren't within earshot of occupied areas and bordered trash fielded vacant lots people used to dump toxic waste. Widening exit ramps in rural areas that get maybe one car every 3 minutes during peak time. All this while the frontage roads (where you exited the freeway from) were in horrible repair and strewn with trash filled vacant lots.
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08-12-2016, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
All I see from you is bunches and bunches of unsupported opinions without facts.
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Do you think that Al reads and digests one complete sentence that you write? You are just a jumping off point for him to post more gibberish intended to troll you and whoever else decides to bite. There isn't a lucid thought to be found in any of his off-topic nonsense and yet somehow people still find ways to offer up sincere replies to it. He makes Stillriledup's quest for 1,000,000,000 posts by any means necessary seem like a righteous endeavor.
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08-12-2016, 09:18 PM
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how convenient tax-wise --->
According to tax returns for 2015 released by the Clinton campaign, 96% of the candidate's charitable donations went to the Clinton Foundation.
And even better, roughly 10% of Clinton Foundation moneys go to charity the rest goes to private jets, hotel suites, shuttling donors, real estate, and the general money laundering around the world to keep moneys hard to trace.....
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08-12-2016, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
Do you think that Al reads and digests one complete sentence that you write? You are just a jumping off point for him to post more gibberish intended to troll you and whoever else decides to bite.
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Yes, the fact-free world of Capper Al, a safe-space from reality.
I just like to confront his ravings with facts, and watch him ignore both the facts and his original statement and go running off in new directions.
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08-13-2016, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
how convenient tax-wise --->
According to tax returns for 2015 released by the Clinton campaign, 96% of the candidate's charitable donations went to the Clinton Foundation.
And even better, roughly 10% of Clinton Foundation moneys go to charity the rest goes to private jets, hotel suites, shuttling donors, real estate, and the general money laundering around the world to keep moneys hard to trace.....
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So she donated 96% to herself. A real mother Teresa.
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08-13-2016, 09:48 AM
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Regarding Clinton's tax returns,why are people criticising something they don't understand?
That's the argument I'm always hearing from Trump supporters on this forum about why he shouldn't release HIS tax returns.
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08-13-2016, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by barahona44
Regarding Clinton's tax returns,why are people criticising something they don't understand?
That's the argument I'm always hearing from Trump supporters on this forum about why he shouldn't release HIS tax returns.
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The reason I don't really care about Trump's returns is because they're about his private businesses and properties. His income isn't tied in any way with politics, and I don't envision any conflicts of interest.
His returns are probably the size of several reams of paper, with a booklet return for each business and in each state he operates.
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08-13-2016, 10:33 AM
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Exactly.
Trump was a private citizen and entitled to his privacy.
Clinton, however, was a public servant.
Seriously, ALL elected officials should be required to make public all their tax records.
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