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jocko699
03-08-2018, 08:53 PM
POTUS going to meet with Kim.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/08/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-invites-trump-to-meet/

kingfin66
03-08-2018, 09:13 PM
I'll believe it when I see it. He does not deserve to meet with the POTUS. That would be something that Obama would do.

davew
03-08-2018, 10:09 PM
I wonder if they will discuss 0bama and Kerry's secret plan to give them $100 billion in cash to move their (and Iran's) nuclear bomb program to another country?

mrhorseplayer
03-08-2018, 10:41 PM
lol

Tom
03-08-2018, 11:18 PM
POTUS is upgrading his meeting attendees.....from Upchuckie and Nancy to Rocket Man.:pound:

Too early to tell, but Lil' Kim might be a wee bit on the scared side thing Trump is a madman who will blow him away.

Probably another lame attempt at getting a lot of foreign aid and then not delivering, but I think this one might turn into something. The world knows we no longer have a sniveling coward in the White House drawing pink lines in the sand.

JustRalph
03-08-2018, 11:48 PM
If Kim acts up after meeting with Trump....


Trump gets Carte Blanche. He can say he tried everything, and then blow their ass off the map......

chadk66
03-09-2018, 08:57 AM
masterful move.

Tom
03-09-2018, 09:28 AM
I wonder if Dung Pyle is following Trump on Twitter?

boxcar
03-09-2018, 09:49 AM
masterful move.

I second that! :ThmbUp: I think JR is dead on!

Marshall Bennett
03-09-2018, 11:48 AM
Gets media away from stupid shit like banging porn stars and personal bs about his family. I don't think much will come out of it. Kim loves the attention he draws being an overblown clown. Trump will report back that he's met with the clown and that he's indeed a clown.
Whats troubling is Kim has the ability to do real harm to neighboring countries. If he doesn't agree to curb his expansion with nukes, Ralph could be right about his fate. Communist military states shouldn't exist in the 21st century anyway. If they're a threat, remove them.

boxcar
03-09-2018, 01:18 PM
POTUS is upgrading his meeting attendees.....from Upchuckie and Nancy to Rocket Man.:pound:

This line of Trump's from the Gridiron dinner is great:

I won't rule out direct talks with Kim Jong Un. I just won't. As far as the risk of dealing with a madman is concerned, that's his problem, not mine. ...

:lol::lol:

OntheRail
03-09-2018, 01:35 PM
This line of Trump's from the Gridiron dinner is great:

I won't rule out direct talks with Kim Jong Un. I just won't. As far as the risk of dealing with a madman is concerned, that's his problem, not mine. ...

:lol::lol:

:ThmbUp:

Clocker
03-09-2018, 01:42 PM
From the OP link:
President Trump has agreed to sit down with his North Korean nemesis Kim Jong Un sometime in the next two months to discuss stripping the hermit nation of its nuclear arsenal, it was announced Thursday.From the White House:
At this point we’re not even talking about negotiations, right? What we’re talking about is an invitation by the leader of North Korea to meet face to face with the President of the United States. The President has accepted that invitation.From the Secy of State:
“We are a long ways from negotiations,” Tillerson said. “We need to be very clear-eyed and realistic about it. I think the first step, and I’ve said this before, is to have talks, to have some kind of talks about talks.”https://www.redstate.com/slee/2018/03/09/hold-meeting-kim-jong-un-not-negotiation/

PaceAdvantage
03-09-2018, 01:44 PM
And they jump right to leader vs. leader talks, instead of some lower level State Department BS...I like it...

boxcar
03-09-2018, 01:54 PM
From the OP link:
From the White House:
From the Secy of State:
https://www.redstate.com/slee/2018/03/09/hold-meeting-kim-jong-un-not-negotiation/

One of the things I really like and admire about Trump is that he has shown time and again that he's the heavyweight champ of DC politics -- contrary to what the lamestream thinks about him. In fact...I'd compare to him to the late, great Muhammad Ali in the boxing world. The main reason Ali was so successful against his opponents is that he kept them on their heels -- he kept them guessing. And this is what Trump does, and he excels at implementing this strategy. He's always a few steps ahead of his opponents because he knows how to keep them guessing. Donald Trump is the master of rope-a-dope politics. :coffee:

woodtoo
03-09-2018, 01:59 PM
Floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee.:ThmbUp:

boxcar
03-09-2018, 02:15 PM
Floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee.:ThmbUp:

That, too. :lol:

letswastemoney
03-09-2018, 02:22 PM
President Clinton wanted to travel to North Korea during his 2nd term, but just ran out of time because he got stuck in Middle East business.

Because Trump wants to do it though, it's a "madman" strategy.

Tom
03-09-2018, 03:15 PM
And they jump right to leader vs. leader talks, instead of some lower level State Department BS...I like it...

Lower lever talks get you lower level results. :ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

Tom
03-09-2018, 03:20 PM
President Clinton wanted to travel to North Korea during his 2nd term, but just ran out of time because he got stuck in Middle East business.

When N Korea held those two American girls hostage, Bill Clinton flew over to successfully negotiate their release.
One the Air Force jet back home, Clinton was sitting alone in the back of the plane, head in hand, looking worried.

"Cheer up, sir!"
"They are free. You have nothing to worry about."

"Hillary!" replied Clinton.
"I haven't been home for three days. She'll flip out on me.

"But sir, just tell her what you did. I'm sure she'll understand."

"You don't understand." said Clinton.
"That's what I told her LAST weekend!"

elysiantraveller
03-09-2018, 03:28 PM
Geopolitically, this has been interesting to watch.

All sides have played their hands well so far.

boxcar
03-09-2018, 03:40 PM
Geopolitically, this has been interesting to watch.

All sides have played their hands well so far.

You think, huh? I wonder if Trump knows that Kim also wrote a book? It's called "The Art of Total[itarian] BS". :coffee:

elysiantraveller
03-09-2018, 03:54 PM
You think, huh? I wonder if Trump knows that Kim also wrote a book? It's called "The Art of Total[itarian] BS". :coffee:

I'm sure Trump is aware that this is posturing. He shouldn't have made the meeting comment as they are already walking that back but he knows this is all posturing. What the North is going to offer isn't particularly surprising to anyone who looks at the Clinton handling of the regime.

The US has done a good job of isolating and ratcheting up pressure on the North forcing them to act.

The North has done a very good job of working some room to maneuver through their talks with the South as well as some successful flights that give them some credibility and leverage.

The South was able to host a good Olympic games. Garner lots of international admiration. Stock up capital and play the role of deal broker.

All sides get decent marks so far...

boxcar
03-09-2018, 04:17 PM
I'm sure Trump is aware that this is posturing. He shouldn't have made the meeting comment as they are already walking that back but he knows this is all posturing. What the North is going to offer isn't particularly surprising to anyone who looks at the Clinton handling of the regime.

The US has done a good job of isolating and ratcheting up pressure on the North forcing them to act.

The North has done a very good job of working some room to maneuver through their talks with the South as well as some successful flights that give them some credibility and leverage.

The South was able to host a good Olympic games. Garner lots of international admiration. Stock up capital and play the role of deal broker.

All sides get decent marks so far...

I, too, am certain of one thing: Unlike Trump's predecessors he knows Kim cannot be trusted.

elysiantraveller
03-09-2018, 04:20 PM
I, too, am certain of one thing: Unlike Trump's predecessors he knows Kim cannot be trusted.

I don't think anyone has ever trusted the regime problem is you also don't really want it to fail...

boxcar
03-09-2018, 04:33 PM
I don't think anyone has ever trusted the regime problem is you also don't really want it to fail...

Slick Willy did. He solved the No. Korea problem, remember? Made it safer for the entire world, too. :rolleyes:

elysiantraveller
03-09-2018, 04:41 PM
Slick Willy did. He solved the No. Korea problem, remember? Made it safer for the entire world, too. :rolleyes:

North Korea was relatively quiet until the "Axis of Evil" speech.

Same for Iran at the time...

That speech was the neo-con coming out party.

boxcar
03-09-2018, 05:37 PM
North Korea was relatively quiet until the "Axis of Evil" speech.

Same for Iran at the time...

That speech was the neo-con coming out party.

Nice deflection. So...Bush brought out the evil in the NK totalitarian state? NK wasn't an evil regime until Bush pissed them off? Ditto questions for Iran, too.
Bush made North Korean and Iran evil nations?

Meanwhile...Slick Willy exasperated the situation in North Korea and lied through his teeth about it to the entire world, telling everyone the world is a safer place because of the deal he made with NK. The Slickster actually became NK's enabler.

Clocker
03-09-2018, 05:42 PM
The other shoe drops.


White House press secretary Sarah Sanders says President Trump won’t meet with Kim Jong Un “until we see concrete actions that match the words and the rhetoric of North Korea” http://cnn.it/2p2Uyif (https://t.co/qTID7SRySB)
12:36 PM - Mar 9, 2018 (https://twitter.com/CNN/status/972194474221821957)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-09/not-so-fast-white-house-says-north-korea-must-take-concrete-actions-trump-kim

boxcar
03-09-2018, 05:50 PM
The other shoe drops.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-09/not-so-fast-white-house-says-north-korea-must-take-concrete-actions-trump-kim

Typical Trump. Keep everyone guessing. Keep everyone off balance. Gotta love it. :coffee:

PaceAdvantage
03-09-2018, 05:53 PM
Ali & 4d Chess?!?!?!

:eek:

elysiantraveller
03-09-2018, 06:15 PM
Nice deflection. So...Bush brought out the evil in the NK totalitarian state? NK wasn't an evil regime until Bush pissed them off? Ditto questions for Iran, too.
Bush made North Korean and Iran evil nations?

Meanwhile...Slick Willy exasperated the situation in North Korea and lied through his teeth about it to the entire world, telling everyone the world is a safer place because of the deal he made with NK. The Slickster actually became NK's enabler.

I don't know what you are talking about here...

I agree with you that he was dumb to trust them. Was just pointing out the Axis of Evil speech that really exacerbated the situation and prompted their rapid race to nuclearization.

PaceAdvantage
03-09-2018, 06:20 PM
Couldn't have just been coincidental timing?

But you're right...north Korea probably would never have pursued nuclear weapons if Bush would have just kept his damn mouth shut...:pound:

HalvOnHorseracing
03-09-2018, 06:20 PM
Nice deflection. So...Bush brought out the evil in the NK totalitarian state? NK wasn't an evil regime until Bush pissed them off? Ditto questions for Iran, too.
Bush made North Korean and Iran evil nations?

Meanwhile...Slick Willy exasperated the situation in North Korea and lied through his teeth about it to the entire world, telling everyone the world is a safer place because of the deal he made with NK. The Slickster actually became NK's enabler.

You've done some exasperating yourself.

elysiantraveller
03-09-2018, 06:32 PM
Couldn't have just been coincidental timing?

But you're right...north Korea probably would never have pursued nuclear weapons if Bush would have just kept his damn mouth shut...:pound:

Cuz that's what I said... ;)

Nobody has ever really trusted the North Koreans. Not even Clinton... they knew the deal was shit... but it shut them up.

This is more a case of Boxcar just looking to argue with me even when I agree with him. Except for talking about the meeting... Trump shouldn't have done that. That was bad move but can easily be explained away.

boxcar
03-09-2018, 07:39 PM
You've done some exasperating yourself.

So did Jesus, as I recall. :coffee:

boxcar
03-09-2018, 07:42 PM
I don't know what you are talking about here...

I agree with you that he was dumb to trust them. Was just pointing out the Axis of Evil speech that really exacerbated the situation and prompted their rapid race to nuclearization.

And those who voted for him were even dumber.

johnhannibalsmith
03-09-2018, 08:00 PM
5D brilliant

barahona44
03-09-2018, 08:55 PM
And those who voted for him were even dumber.

You're right, that 8 years of peace , prosperity and balanced budgets were getting on my nerves.

boxcar
03-10-2018, 11:15 AM
You're right, that 8 years of peace , prosperity and balanced budgets were getting on my nerves.

How long have you been locked away in alt-reality?

barahona44
03-10-2018, 01:27 PM
How long have you been locked away in alt-reality?

So then we didn't have a balanced budget, didn't have one of the longest peacetime economic expansions in history and didn't have any major global conflicts during the Clinton administration?

If you look back at the previous posts, #28 you mentioned Bush and said Clinton lied about North Korea, E.Traveler responded in post #32 said "He" was dumb to trust them, I have to assume 'he' was Clinton because Bush obviously didn't trust NK. (That's why one should always ID a subject before using pronouns, end of grammar lesson). You in Post # 37 said those who voted for him were dumber.And then I replied to you.

It's not that difficult to follow. The leg bone's connected to the knee bone, etc, etc..

boxcar
03-10-2018, 01:50 PM
So then we didn't have a balanced budget, didn't have one of the longest peacetime economic expansions in history and didn't have any major global conflicts during the Clinton administration?

If you look back at the previous posts, #28 you mentioned Bush and said Clinton lied about North Korea, E.Traveler responded in post #32 said "He" was dumb to trust them, I have to assume 'he' was Clinton because Bush obviously didn't trust NK. (That's why one should always ID a subject before using pronouns, end of grammar lesson). You in Post # 37 said those who voted for him were dumber.And then I replied to you.

It's not that difficult to follow. The leg bone's connected to the knee bone, etc, etc..

Yeah...an your point is...??? Meanwhile, mine still stands. :coffee:

barahona44
03-10-2018, 02:00 PM
Yeah...an your point is...??? Meanwhile, mine still stands. :coffee:

Even if I explained my "point",(successful administration's usually get re-elected) you still wouldn't acknowledge it because you have an adversity to giving Democrats credit for anything. Well, that's fine, you can't have much of a jigsaw puzzle if all the pieces are the same.I know you love back-and-forths but I don't.

Have an outstanding rest of your day, sir. :ThmbUp:

boxcar
03-10-2018, 02:35 PM
Even if I explained my "point",(successful administration's usually get re-elected) you still wouldn't acknowledge it because you have an adversity to giving Democrats credit for anything.

Really? I think in many cases, low-information voters account for administrations getting re-elected. Both Obama and Clinton are living proofs of this.

And my adversity is not toward one party or another per se. My adversity is toward the political ideology of this party or that one, generally, and the candidate in particular. What both Clinton and Obama had in common was that they're both lying commie- loving globalists. These kinds of candidates don't do much for me. (And for you info, I was never a big fan of either of the Bushes either -- just to keep it fair and balanced. Both of them were big globalist RINOS.)

Well, that's fine, you can't have much of a jigsaw puzzle if all the pieces are the same.

I prefer transparency over jigsaw puzzle pieces.

I know you love back-and-forths but I don't.

Not over this subject material, I don't. Warts or pimples make for better, more wholesome and intellectually-challenging topics.

Have an outstanding rest of your day, sir. :ThmbUp:

Why thank you, sir. And you likewise. :coffee:

Tom
03-10-2018, 03:16 PM
So then we didn't have a balanced budget, didn't have one of the longest peacetime economic expansions in history and didn't have any major global conflicts during the Clinton administration?

Huh??

Al Qeda came to be, grew unchallenged and made several disasterous attacks on US interests overseas. They came here and attack the WTC and sent trainees here to prepare and launch 9/11.

All while we had a POS POTUS lying about his runaway zipper and his bitch of a wife attacking women victims.

Get a grip, Clinton never gave us a rosegarden.
And oh, it was Reagan's policies that gave us the good economy.

FantasticDan
03-16-2018, 06:48 PM
:bang:

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/974450928714747906

Clocker
03-17-2018, 01:43 PM
https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2018/03/Kim-Football.jpeg?resize=580%2C377

OntheRail
03-17-2018, 01:54 PM
https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2018/03/Kim-Football.jpeg?resize=580%2C377

I'm pretty sure Trump would opt for a Red Forman F.I.A. move... :pound:

Tom
03-17-2018, 02:03 PM
I'd kick the smile off his ugly head.

jocko699
03-17-2018, 02:37 PM
Is Kim wearing a skirt?

woodtoo
03-17-2018, 04:01 PM
Is Kim wearing a skirt?

The one Hillary outgrew.:D

Tom
03-17-2018, 04:05 PM
Oh Good Grief!

Clocker
03-17-2018, 04:15 PM
The one Hillary outgrew.:D

Some things are hard to outgrow, even for her.

https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2018/03/Hillary-Dress.jpeg?resize=580%2C491

Tom
03-17-2018, 07:14 PM
Why is 0bama in Hillary's bathroom?????

Clocker
03-17-2018, 07:38 PM
Why is 0bama in Hillary's bathroom?????

Looking for Dirty Harry?

FantasticDan
03-17-2018, 10:15 PM
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/975186276902195200

jocko699
03-17-2018, 10:38 PM
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/975186276902195200

Might? Really Dan? You posting more fake news? Might is an opinion and from your beloved Vox:pound:, it has to be wrong.

PaceAdvantage
03-20-2018, 07:44 PM
Why is 0bama in Hillary's bathroom?????Damn...you're good. :pound: