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Lemon Drop Husker
12-15-2017, 09:24 AM
Early word is, that this might be the best Star Wars movie of them all. :eek:

I'm a little bit excited. And nerdy about this one. :popcorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY

elysiantraveller
12-15-2017, 09:32 AM
Early word is, that this might be the best Star Wars movie of them all. :eek:

I'm a little bit excited. And nerdy about this one. :popcorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY

I have heard the EXACT opposite. I've also heard spoilers already and am not interested. Will be interesting to see how its received but it seems people who grew up with the original trilogy absolutely hate it.

Actor
12-15-2017, 09:36 AM
Early word is, that this might be the best Star Wars movie of them all. :eek:

I'm a little bit excited. And nerdy about this one. :popcorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihYSold out locally. I promised to take my grandchildren and great grandchildren. I need 9 tickets. No theater has that many unless they are scattered all over the auditorium. So I've bought tickets for next weekend.

Lemon Drop Husker
12-15-2017, 09:36 AM
I have heard the EXACT opposite. I've also heard spoilers already and am not interested. Will be interesting to see how its received but it seems people who grew up with the original trilogy absolutely hate it.

First movie I ever saw in a movie theater was the original Star Wars. 40 years later, it is still one of my favorite movies of all time.

To each hate their own I guess. :D

Lemon Drop Husker
12-15-2017, 09:46 AM
Sold out locally. I promised to take my grandchildren and great grandchildren. I need 9 tickets. No theater has that many unless they are scattered all over the auditorium. So I've bought tickets for next weekend.

Is it OK if I call you Grandpa and tag along? :cool:

Sounds like a great time.

elysiantraveller
12-15-2017, 09:50 AM
First movie I ever saw in a movie theater was the original Star Wars. 40 years later, it is still one of my favorite movies of all time.

To each hate their own I guess. :D

Like I said I know whats going to happen in the film.

I burned out the original 3 VHS Cassettes I had as a kid. I'm not excited with this.

Its starting to feel a lot like new Star Trek. :puke:

Rogue One was great though.

zico20
12-15-2017, 09:53 AM
Like I said I know whats going to happen in the film.

I burned out the original 3 VHS Cassettes I had as a kid. I'm not excited with this.

Its starting to feel a lot like new Star Trek. :puke:

Rogue One was great though.

Rogue One was a great movie.:ThmbUp:

Lemon Drop Husker
12-15-2017, 09:54 AM
Like I said I know whats going to happen in the film.

I burned out the original 3 VHS Cassettes I had as a kid. I'm not excited with this.

Its starting to feel a lot like new Star Trek. :puke:

Rogue One was great though.

I guess I'm somewhat comforted knowing that if Mathilda May showed up naked on your doorstep that you'd be the guy that would save the world.

zico20
12-15-2017, 09:57 AM
Early word is, that this might be the best Star Wars movie of them all. :eek:

I'm a little bit excited. And nerdy about this one. :popcorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY

I just hope it is not regurgitating the original trilogy like "The Force Awakens" did. I want to see something new and unique.

Nutz and Boltz
12-15-2017, 03:46 PM
First movie I ever saw in a movie theater was the original Star Wars. 40 years later, it is still one of my favorite movies of all time.

To each hate their own I guess. :D


Never saw a single Star Wars movie. When the original came out , the lines were too long for me and after a while , I lost interest in seeing it.
I don't go to see a movie because "everybody else" saw it. Plus I like movies where people talk to people, not some computer generated character.

FantasticDan
12-15-2017, 04:11 PM
Rogue One was a great movie.:ThmbUp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRm0WssOE

letswastemoney
12-15-2017, 08:51 PM
I've read the spoilers, and it seems disappointing on the surface. Maybe it will feel different in theaters.

kingfin66
12-15-2017, 10:55 PM
First movie I ever saw in a movie theater was the original Star Wars. 40 years later, it is still one of my favorite movies of all time.

To each hate their own I guess. :D

Mine was Billy Jack.

kingfin66
12-15-2017, 10:56 PM
Rogue One was a great movie.:ThmbUp:

One thing that Rogue One did was answer that age-old Stars Wars question: Why the hell didn't they just put up a thick piece of steel to protect the vulnerability on the Death Star? Fortunately, we now know :)

Lemon Drop Husker
12-15-2017, 11:37 PM
Mine was Billy Jack.

Dang.

Weird, kind of good movie.

Did you like it?

Actor
12-16-2017, 12:44 AM
Mine was Billy Jack.The best of the Billy Jack movies was Born Losers which came out 2 or 3 years before Billy Jack. Loosely based on a real life incident involving the Hell's Angels the real life hero was not an ex Green Beret but the California cops.

Fager Fan
12-17-2017, 12:53 AM
Dang.

Weird, kind of good movie.

Did you like it?

I'm one of 3 in the universe who's never seen any of the Star Wars movies. And it's not that I haven't tried. I've caught 15 minutes here and there of several of the movies, and don't see the appeal at all. I thought they all seemed really, really cheesy. Really cheesy. And bad special effects. Really bad special effects. The appeal of Star Wars is one of the big mysteries of life to me.

thaskalos
12-17-2017, 12:56 AM
I'm one of 3 in the universe who's never seen any of the Star Wars movies. And it's not that I haven't tried. I've caught 15 minutes here and there of several of the movies, and don't see the appeal at all. I thought they all seemed really, really cheesy. Really cheesy. And bad special effects. Really bad special effects. The appeal of Star Wars is one of the big mysteries of life to me.

You've said it better than I ever could. :ThmbUp:

AndyC
12-17-2017, 01:35 AM
You've said it better than I ever could. :ThmbUp:

At least you guys tried. I have never made an effort to watch even 1 minute of any Star Wars movie.

Nutz and Boltz
12-17-2017, 09:33 AM
....And I thought that I was the only one in the universe who never saw any of them. I never thought that the special effects were that "special", either.

I saw a list of the most popular movies of all time and got down to number 40 , Jaws, before I came to a movie that was a favorite of mine. I guess I have no taste. (Or the rest of the world doesn't).

kingfin66
12-17-2017, 02:59 PM
....And I thought that I was the only one in the universe who never saw any of them. I never thought that the special effects were that "special", either.

I saw a list of the most popular movies of all time and got down to number 40 , Jaws, before I came to a movie that was a favorite of mine. I guess I have no taste. (Or the rest of the world doesn't).

Well, Jaws is a pretty good movie, especially the scene where Robert Shaw talks about the U.S.S. Indianapolis, so your taste isn't way out there.

When you look at Star Wars' special effects you really need to put into the context of the mid-70s. By today's standards, they are nothing, but for the time they are really quite brilliant. The level of detail captured in the scale models is really incredible, at least in my opinion. Then to incorporate explosions, etc. Where I think the original SW fails is in the acting. For every Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness, they had a Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and Carrie Fisher. The Harrison Ford of today is much improved over the young Harrison Ford.

kingfin66
12-17-2017, 03:01 PM
First movie I ever saw in a movie theater was the original Star Wars. 40 years later, it is still one of my favorite movies of all time.

To each hate their own I guess. :D

The first Star Wars was released in 1977. My sons were born in 1999. Without any influence at all from me, it quickly became their favorite movie and still is. They have watched all of them many times. At least they will grudgingly admit that Phantom Menace sucks and that the Clone Wars is not very good either.

kingfin66
12-17-2017, 03:05 PM
Dang.

Weird, kind of good movie.

Did you like it?

I liked it as a kid, but as an adult I came to realize that the acting and production values were quite poor. Still, I can never get tired of this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXXyms5g5ok

davew
12-17-2017, 04:40 PM
I thought Carrie Fisher was dead, was her character all CGI and voice synthesizer?

Fager Fan
12-17-2017, 04:47 PM
Well, Jaws is a pretty good movie, especially the scene where Robert Shaw talks about the U.S.S. Indianapolis, so your taste isn't way out there.

When you look at Star Wars' special effects you really need to put into the context of the mid-70s. By today's standards, they are nothing, but for the time they are really quite brilliant. The level of detail captured in the scale models is really incredible, at least in my opinion. Then to incorporate explosions, etc. Where I think the original SW fails is in the acting. For every Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness, they had a Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and Carrie Fisher. The Harrison Ford of today is much improved over the young Harrison Ford.

I'm not a Trekkie, but I did enjoy the Star Trek movies. I'm pretty sure the first movie was about the same time as the first Star Wars, and if memory serves me correct, I think Star Trek's production (and acting and story lines, etc) was much superior.

It may be that I have a hard time with any movie that is in the fantasy genre, and there's something about the costumes and characters, an overall cheesiness, that strikes me as fantasy. I don't know if anyone understands that, or if even I do, but I've never really gotten why I just don't get a movie franchise that is so wildly popular.

FantasticDan
12-17-2017, 04:50 PM
I thought Carrie Fisher was dead, was her character all CGI and voice synthesizer?She had completed her scenes for the new movie before she died.

MutuelClerk
12-17-2017, 07:39 PM
I'm one of 3 in the universe who's never seen any of the Star Wars movies. And it's not that I haven't tried. I've caught 15 minutes here and there of several of the movies, and don't see the appeal at all. I thought they all seemed really, really cheesy. Really cheesy. And bad special effects. Really bad special effects. The appeal of Star Wars is one of the big mysteries of life to me.

I'll take bad special affects and cheese to CGI. Standing in front of green screen. Alone. Hollywood relies on CGI too much these days. A mindset of well it worked once here, so we have to use it .Then again they rely also on remakes and sequels. I worked all weekend. Going tomorrow 10am. Can't wait.....

kingfin66
12-17-2017, 10:31 PM
I'm not a Trekkie, but I did enjoy the Star Trek movies. I'm pretty sure the first movie was about the same time as the first Star Wars, and if memory serves me correct, I think Star Trek's production (and acting and story lines, etc) was much superior.

It may be that I have a hard time with any movie that is in the fantasy genre, and there's something about the costumes and characters, an overall cheesiness, that strikes me as fantasy. I don't know if anyone understands that, or if even I do, but I've never really gotten why I just don't get a movie franchise that is so wildly popular.

The Star Trek movies got progressively worse to the point of being embarrassing. The latest movies made by JJ Abrams have been incredible. I am the same as you as far as not being a SciFi person. What Star Wards did, in my opinion, is make SciFi appealing to the masses. If you can stomach watching Star Wars (I am speaking of the original), view it in the context of a western. It really does have all of the elements of a good western. In fact, I think that is really why it was so successful; people picked up on that in their subconscious. Of course, I am probably overthinking it. :)

Fager Fan
12-18-2017, 01:51 AM
The Star Trek movies got progressively worse to the point of being embarrassing. The latest movies made by JJ Abrams have been incredible. I am the same as you as far as not being a SciFi person. What Star Wards did, in my opinion, is make SciFi appealing to the masses. If you can stomach watching Star Wars (I am speaking of the original), view it in the context of a western. It really does have all of the elements of a good western. In fact, I think that is really why it was so successful; people picked up on that in their subconscious. Of course, I am probably overthinking it. :)

Maybe I should sit and watch the first one, at least give it a good try.

As for Star Trek, the last one I remember was where Spock talks to the whale in modern day CA. Hmm, I remember Spock dying too, don't know if that was the same one or the one after. I couldn't get into the newer Star Treks with the new cast.

JustRalph
12-18-2017, 02:35 AM
Iíve been watching the first one from 1977 on my DVR in bits and pieces. They broadcast it in HD now. Itís funny to look at the details of the ships and the guns etc in HD. The uniforms for the Star Troopers are much more detailed too.

Iíve always been Luke warm on it. .................thatís a joke son!

Robert Fischer
12-18-2017, 01:55 PM
The first round (late 70s?) really fit that era's sci-fi movie climate (for adults as well), and created this sort of fantasy realm(popular for kids/teens at the time) where action-figures came to life.

This latest round seems like it could be entertaining for kids (or very nostalgic die-hard SW fan adults), especially if seen in one of the higher quality theaters with a nice screen and sound system. Enjoy the sights and sounds of the on-screen world, and don't have high expectations for the actors.

zico20
12-18-2017, 10:06 PM
I saw it today and I am not happy with the way the first two movies in this trilogy are playing out. I don't see how the last one is going to save the trilogy.

Actor
12-18-2017, 10:56 PM
As for Star Trek, the last one I remember was where Spock talks to the whale in modern day CA. Hmm, I remember Spock dying too, don't know if that was the same one or the one after.Spock died in Star Trek II: the Wrath of Kahn. They resurrected him in Star Trek III: the Search for Spock. Spock talked to the whales in Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home.

Just before he dies at the end of The Wrath of Kahn he puts his hand on the head of an unconscious Dr. McCoy and says "Remember". That bit is the key to his resurrection in the following movie. I think that bit was not in Wrath of Kahn when it was first released and they added it in later releases. But I can't prove it.

Fager Fan
12-19-2017, 12:14 AM
Spock died in Star Trek II: the Wrath of Kahn. They resurrected him in Star Trek III: the Search for Spock. Spock talked to the whales in Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home.

Just before he dies at the end of The Wrath of Kahn he puts his hand on the head of an unconscious Dr. McCoy and says "Remember". That bit is the key to his resurrection in the following movie. I think that bit was not in Wrath of Kahn when it was first released and they added it in later releases. But I can't prove it.

That helps, thanks. I thought talking to whales was the last Star Trek I watched, yet Spock was alive for that.

davew
12-19-2017, 12:32 AM
When Star Wars first came out, the special effects and sound were way ahead of their time. Now it is just another Sci-Flick.

I can say the same thing about the James Bond series.

But I still like to see the new episodes, even if it takes 3-5 years between them.

letswastemoney
12-27-2017, 05:52 PM
I actually saw the movie.

I guess time can change a character, but Luke Skywalker just doesn't seem like Luke Skywalker. He was a hopeful, optimistic person in the original trilogy.

In this, he seems untrusting. He doesn't try to teach Kylo Ren to turn away from the dark side in the flashbacks. Yet, Luke was tempted by the dark side in the originals and found a way to resist.

He just forgets all that?

Also, the Finn/Rose scenes on the casino island kind of dragged down the pacing. It made gambling and racing look a little bad as well.

Rey as the main hero is fine. I don't care if the main Jedi is female. I don't care if the movie is more diverse.

But I care about a well-written script and characters I care about.

I care about Rey, but most of the newer people are throwaway characters for me.

fast4522
12-27-2017, 07:13 PM
It is why we have Blu Ray, looking forward when it comes to Redbox. I asked someone I know and trust and got the :ThmbUp:.

FantasticDan
12-27-2017, 07:39 PM
It is why we have Blu Ray, looking forward when it comes to Redbox. I asked someone I know and trust and got the :ThmbUp:
Was it Jar Jar? :p

FantasticDan
12-27-2017, 07:47 PM
Saw it last week. Force Awakens was just a shameless remake of ANH, but it was effective nonetheless, especially in the wake of the horrible prequels.

This film never really engaged me on any level. And it definitely was a downer to see Luke for the first time in 35 years, and have him be such a miserable sourpuss.

MutuelClerk
12-28-2017, 10:51 AM
I saw it too and agree about Luke. He reminded me of the Clint Eastwood character in Gran Torino. 7 out of 10.

Actor
12-29-2017, 03:10 PM
I guess time can change a character, but Luke Skywalker just doesn't seem like Luke Skywalker. He was a hopeful, optimistic person in the original trilogy.I was a hopeful, optimistic person in the 1960s. Today, not so much.

davew
02-13-2018, 11:01 PM
The StarWars franchise has gotten out of hand. The will pass the James Bond series for total films in a couple years. The Game Of Thrones crew is going to do a trilogy.

http://www.starwars.com/news/game-of-thrones-creators-david-benioff-and-d-b-weiss-to-write-and-produce-a-new-series-of-star-wars-films

letswastemoney
02-14-2018, 04:31 PM
The new Star Wars films are void of meaningful romance subplots.

In the original trilogy, you could really feel the connection between Han and Leia, even though they were initially bickering with each other.

Disney Star Wars just feels...lifeless. Not enough humanity. It's more about the actual missions, rather than friendship and love.