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Capper Al
08-12-2015, 04:16 AM
In all fairness, I was using BRIS figures to beat the BPP rating. A sampling from my last 140 races:

1. AMS fld hits-> 104
2. BPP hits-> 103
3. eff Swtz* fld hits-> 101
4. ML (Morning Line) hits-> 100

*Data grouped per Dave's book P&P 2012

Capper Al
08-12-2015, 04:52 AM
In all fairness, I was using BRIS figures to beat the BPP rating. A sampling from my last 140 races:

1. AMS fld hits-> 104
2. BPP hits-> 103
3. eff Swtz* fld hits-> 101
4. ML (Morning Line) hits-> 100

*Data grouped per Dave's book P&P 2012

Forgot to mention that a hit is a winner from one of the top 3 selections.

Dave Schwartz
08-12-2015, 09:34 AM
What about total return? Do you have those figures?

Capper Al
08-12-2015, 12:48 PM
What about total return? Do you have those figures?

I wasn't follow those in this sample.

whodoyoulike
08-12-2015, 05:16 PM
What about total return? Do you have those figures?

You were able to understand the original post?

Dave Schwartz
08-12-2015, 06:42 PM
Yes, I did. Is there an issue with my question?

Did it not make sense?

whodoyoulike
08-12-2015, 07:06 PM
Yes, I did. Is there an issue with my question?

Did it not make sense?

Actually yours did, I just didn't follow post #1 or #2. I understand what total return is (in a general sense). I just don't know what CapperAl is writing about.

Dave Schwartz
08-12-2015, 07:57 PM
LOL - Oh. Now I get it.

He was saying that he handicapped 140 races and the top 3 had the winner those number of times.

Robert Goren
08-13-2015, 01:06 PM
My limited research into Bris PP shows that a top rated horse who is also the favorite is only profitable at 3/5 or less and then only it is only barely profitable. The higher the odds such a horse goes off at the more money it loses. When it gets into the 5/2 range or higher, generally there is another horse in the race that worth a bet.

Capper Al
08-13-2015, 01:12 PM
Yes, I did. Is there an issue with my question?

Did it not make sense?

I'm a mad man at coding these systems. I forge out never knowing exactly what I'll code next. My current interest was for a contest that I'm in for picking winners, not maximizing returns. I'm about half through my rewrite, and I want to play. So I built a quick pick spreadsheet using the data that I have. It seems to be working fine. Out of 15 cards we have 4 more to go, and I am in the lead.

Capper Al
08-13-2015, 01:15 PM
LOL - Oh. Now I get it.

He was saying that he handicapped 140 races and the top 3 had the winner those number of times.

Yeap. Sorry for any confusion. I was just delighted that I beat out BPP. That's a high standard to match.

Capper Al
08-13-2015, 01:16 PM
My limited research into Bris PP shows that a top rated horse who is also the favorite is only profitable at 3/5 or less and then only it is only barely profitable. The higher the odds such a horse goes off at the more money it loses. When it gets into the 5/2 range or higher, generally there is another horse in the race that worth a bet.

Thanks. My study isn't so focused.

Capper Al
08-13-2015, 01:57 PM
MSW and MC didn't do as well for me. Out of 52 races, it came out as follows:

(Winner in top 3)

1. ML -- 41
2. Jky mPct -- 40
3. Jky wPct -- 39

BPP might of failed because of first time starters.