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Robert Goren
12-27-2013, 01:41 PM
I see a lot horse that are claimed and then in the next race or the second back is claimed back the original trainer and pops today. Do you like these kinds of horses? Do you hate them? Why?

Robert Goren
12-27-2013, 01:52 PM
One of those type of horses just won the fourth at Aqu paying $13.60

classhandicapper
12-27-2013, 02:36 PM
I've never seen stats on it, but it can't be a bad sign because that means the former trainer knows the horse is sound etc...

BIG HIT
12-27-2013, 02:52 PM
Would say strength the play being knows the horse and where he is going to put him to get his money back plus two re invest money .I think would be a big deal getting $13.00 on a horse like that is great

Tom
12-27-2013, 10:13 PM
Cramer wrote about that angle in one of his newsletters. ;)

PhantomOnTour
12-27-2013, 11:34 PM
Of major importance is who's claiming and reclaiming from whom.

Robert Goren
12-27-2013, 11:36 PM
Cramer wrote about that angle in one of his newsletters. ;)Touché

sammy the sage
12-28-2013, 07:03 AM
Well I find it INSIDOUS when a trainer claims back w/a DIFFERENT owner...some thing SMELLS then...esp...when they pay HIGHER for it...why sell for OTHER owner in 1st place :confused:

MJC922
12-28-2013, 09:32 AM
Cramer wrote about that angle in one of his newsletters. ;)

I think it was Olmstead, way before Cramer was involved.

RaceBookJoe
12-28-2013, 01:37 PM
The re-claim is one of those old-school angles I first read about in a book written in the '60s or '50s...and one of the old-school angles that when I see it I take a 2nd look at the horse. I have always felt that a re-claim was usually a positive factor, so I just keep it in mind.

Longshot6977
12-28-2013, 01:56 PM
I think I read about this angle long ago by Ray Taulbot in the ATM mag.

jk3521
12-28-2013, 02:49 PM
Old angle ... not one to count on.

LottaKash
12-28-2013, 03:02 PM
I see this much more so in Harness Racing than in T-breds...Still, I have discovered and bet on this "angle" in both scenes, before...

When a trainer "Re-claims" a horse for himself, it is a very significant thing to track, imo...

jk3521
12-28-2013, 03:04 PM
Maybe if it's owner/trainer it would be a better bet. Some owners aren't so smart. ;)

LottaKash
12-28-2013, 04:14 PM
I see this much more so in Harness Racing than in T-breds...Still, I have discovered and bet on this "angle" in both scenes, before...

When a trainer "Re-claims" a horse for himself, it is a very significant thing to track, imo...

I left something out of this angle...And, it is too important to not include it....

When a Trainer RE-CLAIMS a horse for himself, he must have been the Owner/Trainer as well, at that time, before he lost that horse....

It is obvious that the trainer knows that he has an edge with this horse, and is worth having him back again....

Fingal
12-29-2013, 08:55 PM
Well I find it INSIDIOUS when a trainer claims back w/a DIFFERENT owner...some thing SMELLS then...esp...when they pay HIGHER for it...why sell for OTHER owner in 1st place :confused:

Maybe the prior trainer liked the horse in his barn, maybe the horse while not a win machine brought home those constant in the money checks for the barn & the old owner only wanted winner circle pictures.