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09-17-2012, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grits
There are folks that have been watching her every move, waiting, watching for her like evangelicals are watching for the second coming.
Somehow, its hard to get so flipped out about a horse that's never run. Maybe its just me.
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agreed grits anything associated with Zenyatta and that's what you get.
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09-17-2012, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grits
Somehow, its hard to get so flipped out about a horse that's not very good. Maybe its just me.
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FTFY. I thought the same thing when Street Life went off 6.70:1 in the Travers.
Maybe it's just me.
Then again, that's 'Chad's' horse.
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09-17-2012, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Itamaraca
FTFY. I thought the same thing when Street Life went off 6.70:1 in the Travers.
Maybe it's just me.
Then again, that's 'Chad's' horse.
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Please, don't rewrite my posts. As much as you feel you may be, you're not bright enough to qualify. Its in your best interest to put me on ignore if you don't like what I post here at PA. I promise you, if my past history reveals anything, its that I'm not your best choice as a troll candidate.
I trust you'll understand, "whateveryournameisthismonth." Thanks.
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09-21-2012, 09:46 AM
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If she turns out to be a good enough horse to be competitive in stakes, that would be a huge success. More than that would be great. The expectations (or hopes) for more are unfair to her and the connections. Shirreffs is handling her like she has some ability but she must have had a setback or two along the way as she was growing because her training has been interrupted a couple of times.
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10-02-2012, 01:37 PM
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gelding
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6F work on 9/24
5F work on 10/2
Almost ready...
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Yet more workouts, but she's been picking it up (by her previous standards). Shirreff's says she travels 'twice the ground as a normal horse'. Smith says she reminds him of big Z..
Anyway, I'd be surprised if a late fall start didn't happen.. that's when 3yo Zenyatta debuted as well..
Betfair Hollywood Park 9/14/2012 All Weather Track 5F 1:01.60 Handily 34/126
Betfair Hollywood Park 9/7/2012 All Weather Track 5F 1:00.40 Handily 3/37
Betfair Hollywood Park 8/22/2012 All Weather Track 3F 36.40 Handily 2/20
Betfair Hollywood Park 8/15/2012 All Weather Track 4F 47.60 Handily 1/38
Betfair Hollywood Park 8/8/2012 All Weather Track 3F 38.00 Handily 20/27
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11-05-2012, 02:21 PM
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gelding
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6F work 11/24
6F work 10/28
6F work 10/19
5F work 10/10
Almost, almost ready..
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11-11-2012, 08:03 PM
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This will be like a UFO sighting when/if it occurs.
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11-11-2012, 11:39 PM
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This will be a wonderful betting opportunity!!! Zenyatta's half-sister...with the sire being the overrated Bernardini?? With a 7% 1st time out trainer???
Ironically, the best alternative is a Moss owned filly named Belonging...
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11-12-2012, 12:50 AM
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Shirreffs has weak stats with FTSers in recent years but Nakatani's presence is not a problem. Five wins, four seconds from just 15 starts together in the past five years.
The dam has thrown five starters. Four of them are multiple winners, three won their debuts and two are multiple G1 winners. So unless she offers a poor physical/emotional impression in the paddock/parade-- which is unlikely-- I won't be betting against Eblouissante on Friday. Her workout pattern is solid and the opposition is hardly overwhelming.
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11-12-2012, 12:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RXB
Shirreffs has weak stats with FTSers in recent years but Nakatani's presence is not a problem. Five wins, four seconds from just 15 starts together in the past five years.
The dam has thrown five starters. Four of them are multiple winners, three won their debuts and two are multiple G1 winners. So unless she offers a poor physical/emotional impression in the paddock/parade-- which is unlikely-- I won't be betting against Eblouissante on Friday. Her workout pattern is solid and the opposition is hardly overwhelming.
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In a normal situation, she should be 5/1 to 10/1. She won't be. Zenyatta has ruined her value. I think it's worth the risk to go against.
I'm not afraid to be wrong.
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11-12-2012, 01:16 AM
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In addition, any Bernardini offspring is already overhyped. How much more will the half to Zenyatta be? Fair odds will just not be there.
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11-12-2012, 10:32 AM
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we'll see how she does, could be the family's just late bloomers
are there any breaks in the work tabs, might have had minor injuries along the way
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11-12-2012, 12:24 PM
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Working on 'Plan B'
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Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
In a normal situation, she should be 5/1 to 10/1. She won't be. Zenyatta has ruined her value. I think it's worth the risk to go against.
I'm not afraid to be wrong.
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Or simultaneously obnoxious and boring.
What exactly is the deal with that 'Pretty Horse Handicapper' link of yours? Never mind.
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