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12-28-2013, 10:51 PM
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i think you mean Jonathan Horowitz
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Yeah, that's kind of funny. I think I dreamt that I went and saw Weekend at Bernie's at the Drive-in or something.
Sorry Mr. Jonathan.
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01-03-2014, 05:21 PM
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Wrona just butchered the finish of the 4th race at Golden Gate.
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01-03-2014, 05:52 PM
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Wrona just butchered the finish of the 4th race at Golden Gate.
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He did?
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01-03-2014, 05:54 PM
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He did?
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Yes, he called the winner of the race (the 2) by the name of the 1 the last two times he mentioned him.
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01-03-2014, 06:02 PM
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Yes, he called the winner of the race (the 2) by the name of the 1 the last two times he mentioned him.
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oh yeah, great catch, lol, i didnt even hear that, he was calling top tizzy than all of a sudden started calling Texit the winner...yikes, that was bad.
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05-01-2014, 05:23 PM
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Giving a shout out to Churchill Downs during his 4th race call?
What's up with THAT.
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07-05-2015, 08:22 PM
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Wasn't sure I loved his call in the 7th today, he seemed too upbeat after a horse had fallen, he just kept calling the race as if it was business as usual.
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07-05-2015, 08:33 PM
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Wasn't sure I loved his call in the 7th today, he seemed too upbeat after a horse had fallen, he just kept calling the race as if it was business as usual.
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Ever hear Chic Anderson's call of Ruffian and Foolish Pleasure? He raised his voice!
Tom Durkin used to cry into the mic after breakdowns. But that isn't the announcer's job. The bettors, the public, and the owners deserve a professional call. If Wrona called the race as you describe, he was right.
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07-05-2015, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Wasn't sure I loved his call in the 7th today, he seemed too upbeat after a horse had fallen, he just kept calling the race as if it was business as usual.
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I, on the other hand, am quite sure that Michael Wrona is one of the top 3 race callers in this country. It isn't the announcer's job to manufacture fake emotion during the running of the race. If he had reduced the tone of his race call to suit the circumstances of the race...then he would surely be called "fake", or "unprofessional", by some other poster. IMO...he main thing is to be "real". If you FEEL something, then SAY it. If you don't...then DON'T.
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07-05-2015, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
Ever hear Chic Anderson's call of Ruffian and Foolish Pleasure? He raised his voice!
Tom Durkin used to cry into the mic after breakdowns. But that isn't the announcer's job. The bettors, the public, and the owners deserve a professional call. If Wrona called the race as you describe, he was right.
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Ooops...had I seen this, then I wouldn't have bothered posting. 
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07-05-2015, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I, on the other hand, am quite sure that Michael Wrona is one of the top 3 race callers in this country. It isn't the announcer's job to manufacture fake emotion during the running of the race. If he had reduced the tone of his race call to suit the circumstances of the race...then he would surely be called "fake", or "unprofessional", by some other poster. IMO...he main thing is to be "real". If you FEEL something, then SAY it. If you don't...then DON'T.
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But isn't he calling the race for the crowd? By only saying what you feel, than he's really calling the race for himself and not the paying customers.
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07-05-2015, 09:58 PM
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But isn't he calling the race for the crowd? By only saying what you feel, than he's really calling the race for himself and not the paying customers.
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He's doing his job - his way.
All race callers have their own styles - some you like, some you don't.
Michael Wrona is a fine race caller - clearly one of the best in the world.
There is no way he can have 100% accuracy with his calls, or please everyone.
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07-05-2015, 10:06 PM
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But isn't he calling the race for the crowd? By only saying what you feel, than he's really calling the race for himself and not the paying customers.
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I don't understand what you are saying here, SRU. You don't even sound CONVINCED that you were bothered by Wrona's race call. "I'm not sure that I loved his call"...you wrote. What kind of "criticism" is that?
IMO...the announcer is LYING when he tries to "manufacture" emotion...and it's often obvious to the audience. The race is unfolding rapidly...and you have very little time to react to an unexpected development. It would have been nice if Wrona was compelled to deliver the appropriately somber race call that would have met with your approval....but it didn't happen. And that's fine too.
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Last edited by thaskalos; 07-05-2015 at 10:07 PM.
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07-05-2015, 10:21 PM
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Excellent point.
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Since I was going to say that, I'll say, "Thank you".
Here's my idea for a solution:
Problem: Whales are dumping big money at the last micro second straight into the pools. Yes everyone wants to bet late but the whales are the ones tilting the tote board.
Solution: Limit the amount of money that can be wagered. Starting 10 minutes out, you can bet all you want with amounts reducing approaching post time.
The final wager size should be high enough not to affect normal wagerers who aren't dumping huge amounts into the pools from computers at the last second but small enough to keep these people from ruining the game for the rest of us.
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07-06-2015, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
He's doing his job - his way.
All race callers have their own styles - some you like, some you don't.
Michael Wrona is a fine race caller - clearly one of the best in the world.
There is no way he can have 100% accuracy with his calls, or please everyone.
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I like his style, I'm not being critical of the accuracy of his calls.
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