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07-18-2011, 07:20 PM
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Can the president be fired
Not a big one on politics but I have to wonder.I have seen them recall mayors and fire heads of goverment.If the people are unhappy with what the president is doing.Why not just fire him?
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07-18-2011, 07:33 PM
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Not sure if he can be fired,He can be removed for being mentally incapable
he has made some blunders recently such as announcing his upcoming Bday
next week,when it was in fact 2 weeks away.Also when signing the guest book at Westminster Abbey he wrote 2008 not 2011.Silly mistakes yes,but very odd ones.
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07-18-2011, 07:34 PM
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He can be impeached for misconduct, however, I don't think that incompetency is impeachable, yet.
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07-18-2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
He can be impeached for misconduct, however, I don't think that incompetency is impeachable, yet.
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Of course it isn't and mistaking a date or signing a wrong year in a book is certainly not indicative of incompetency. Unless someone is desperately looking to get rid of a president who will be here until 2020.
To answer woodtoo's question. There is no recall of a President. Impeachment applies only when a President has committed Treason, Bribery or other High crimes and misdemeanors. Sorry Tom, you can't impeach a president for blowing a stop sign.
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07-18-2011, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Of course it isn't and mistaking a date or signing a wrong year in a book is certainly not indicative of incompetency.
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His incompetencies are far deeper than mistaking a date or signing a wrong year in a book. He and his his predecessor are classic examples of The Peter Principle. Not too many of his community organizing skills have transferred to his management of the most important job in the world.
In most big companies, he'd have been given the golden parachute by now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
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07-18-2011, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
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2020 ? And to think they called me a Stooge.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 07-18-2011 at 09:39 PM.
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07-18-2011, 09:14 PM
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... Sorry Tom, you can't impeach a president for blowing a stop sign.
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Nor, apparently, for getting blown by one either.
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07-18-2011, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Sorry Tom, you can't impeach a president for blowing a stop sign.
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Is "stop sign" code for an intern?
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07-18-2011, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by McSchell_Racing
Not a big one on politics but I have to wonder.I have seen them recall mayors and fire heads of goverment.If the people are unhappy with what the president is doing.Why not just fire him?
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This question is an indication of the sorry state that our school system is in. This stuff is suppose to be taught over and again in school.
They have an election next year, so if enough people don't like the job he is doing, they can fire him. Bush 41 was fired that way. So was Carter and Ford.
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07-18-2011, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
This question is an indication of the sorry state that our school system is in. This stuff is suppose to be taught over and again in school.
They have an election next year, so if enough people don't like the job he is doing, they can fire him. Bush 41 was fired that way. So was Carter and Ford.
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Hmm ever heard of the term "revisionism"....
Now who is it that is trying to rewrite history and now pushing agendas in school systems through books??? I wonder......
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07-19-2011, 12:25 AM
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Hmm ever heard of the term "revisionism"....
Now who is it that is trying to rewrite history and now pushing agendas in school systems through books??? I wonder......
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I have no idea what you are trying to say here. That Obama is rewriting text books so we-I mean you- can't impeach him. Are you saying that RG is making up stuff about what was taught in Civics class when he was a youngin'?
I'm just
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07-19-2011, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
I have no idea what you are trying to say here. That Obama is rewriting text books so we-I mean you- can't impeach him. Are you saying that RG is making up stuff about what was taught in Civics class when he was a youngin'?
I'm just
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What RG was taught in school is being taught different now. Books are being changed daily....graduation requirements are being changed.....want to guess who is pushing the agenda??
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07-19-2011, 04:14 AM
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As a practical matter I think the Congress could trump up any charge and call it a "high crime and misdemeanor."
It takes 2/3 of the House of Representatives to pass a bill of impeachment. I don't think the Republicans have that kind of majority at this time.
If a bill of impeachment passes the President is tried by the Senate with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding. It takes 2/3 to convict. That's 67 votes which the Republicans do not have at this time.
The Constitution requires that the Chief Justice preside at the trial. During the trial of President Andrew Johnson in the 1860s the Chief Justice threatened to walk out, bringing up the question of whether the trial could proceed without him. In theory the Chief Justice could refuse to preside and there would be no trial, meaning the President keeps his job. Of course, the Chief Justice could then be impeached.
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07-19-2011, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by newtothegame
What RG was taught in school is being taught different now. Books are being changed daily....graduation requirements are being changed.....want to guess who is pushing the agenda??
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This is an easy one to rebut. The two biggest Con successes are the Supreme Court (until one more leaves ) and the Texas Board of Education, which is dominated by the far right Christian Cons who have been eliminating Jefferson and slavery in favour of a Christian agenda. See: http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/...rtisan-agendas
They are critical beacause the major textbook publishers follow their lead in the production of books for schools in most states.
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07-19-2011, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Goren
This question is an indication of the sorry state that our school system is in. This stuff is suppose to be taught over and again in school.
They have an election next year, so if enough people don't like the job he is doing, they can fire him. Bush 41 was fired that way. So was Carter and Ford.
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The guy who asked the question and started the thread is not a native to the United States. If my memory is right, he is from Canada. It would not be unrealistic for him to ask a question like this. Give the guy a break ........
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