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01-29-2011, 07:58 AM
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Ayn Rand COLLECTED SS / MEDICARE
Gee, This sounds sooooo familiar
...Rand called altruism a “basic evil” and referred to those who perpetuate the system of taxation and redistribution as “looters” and “moochers.” She wrote in her book “The Virtue of Selfishness” that accepting any government controls is “delivering oneself into gradual enslavement.”
“Morally and economically, the welfare state creates an ever accelerating downward pull.” ----Rand in a 1972 newsletter,
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I guess writing about dividing the world into "producers" and "collectivists" didn't interfere too much however when she was on the collectivist dole..
Rand was an anchor similar to some poor food stamp recipient, or a single mom on welfare.
Does not include how much her writings were also an anchor on society. But that is another topic. 
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01-29-2011, 09:04 AM
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Al Gore flies in airplanes and rides in cars. This seems like it'll be an enlightening thread.
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01-29-2011, 09:04 AM
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if she paid it..she earned it
period
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01-29-2011, 09:08 AM
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So are you saying that she should have declined SS, allowing the government to keep the money which was involuntarily confiscated from her? You've lost it Hcap.
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01-29-2011, 10:36 AM
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"This message is hidden because hcap is on your ignore list. "
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01-29-2011, 10:41 AM
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Ayn Rand was not the first person to preach one thing and live another way. She wasn't the last either.
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01-29-2011, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Ayn Rand was not the first person to preach one thing and live another way. She wasn't the last either.
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Any Rand was an extremist and had her share of personal foibles, to say the least. She was very much an ivory tower thinker, but that doesn't mean she wasn't leaning in the right direction much of the time.
Still, what hcap is getting at is just stupid, as if all non-liberals are looking at Ayn Rand as a model of how to live. Che Guevara was a mass murderer and a serial rapist, but you still find him on the chests of lots of young liberal college chicks...
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01-29-2011, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Ayn Rand was not the first person to preach one thing and live another way. She wasn't the last either.
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Obama, costing taxpayers $1 million bucks for his vacation while we have almost 10% unemployment? Or going around the world apologizing for America and then daring to use the term American Exceptionalism in his Joke of the Union speech?
Yeah, Ayn paid for both benefits.
Obama never paid for anything in his miserable life.
Obama ----*spit* FUBO!
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01-29-2011, 11:05 AM
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Poor hcap...he tries so hard to find someone to blame since he can't point to anything Obama has done good....must be awful to wait so many years, under Bush, and then crap out.
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01-29-2011, 11:06 AM
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A far better person to read would be Eric Hoffer.
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01-29-2011, 11:13 AM
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Averill Harriman, Governor of New York and Ambassador to the United Nations, declined to accept Social Security payments. His family holdings were immense real estate properties and railroads.
I don't know of any others who refused SS payments. But, someone like Rand, who espoused against government support and was well-to-do, should practice what she preaches.
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01-29-2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
A far better person to read would be Eric Hoffer.
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The "Ordeal of Change" is a must read. Thanks for mentioning Eric Hoffer, a blind longshoreman.
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01-29-2011, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
Al Gore flies in airplanes and rides in cars.
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Speaking of good old Al, the genius (?) that invented the internet and told the world that we are doomed by global warming, wonder how large his air conditioning bill has been lately. What with one of the coldest winters on record, guess that Al is kind of laying low and not saying much.
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01-29-2011, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiderman
Averill Harriman, Governor of New York and Ambassador to the United Nations, declined to accept Social Security payments. His family holdings were immense real estate properties and railroads.
I don't know of any others who refused SS payments. But, someone like Rand, who espoused against government support and was well-to-do, should practice what she preaches.
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Why? HER MONEY was confiscated from her under the force of law, and she should just walk away from that? Have you completely lost your marbles!? She should not only take as much of her money back as she can, but I only wish she could sue the U.S. government legalizing a Ponzi Scheme which is illegal in the real world! 
Methinks your cobwebs, Spidey, have come home to roost in the hollows of your cranial cavity. 
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01-29-2011, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiderman
Averill Harriman, Governor of New York and Ambassador to the United Nations, declined to accept Social Security payments. His family holdings were immense real estate properties and railroads.
I don't know of any others who refused SS payments. But, someone like Rand, who espoused against government support and was well-to-do, should practice what she preaches.
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And he was a democrat.
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