Mystery of Form!

[Maxspa]

All,
Tonight, I had the pleasure of attending an interesting, thought provoking seminar presented by Dave Schwartz. Without revealing the topic, that will be presented in it's entirety at a later date, I can only tell you that what Dave has found in his research will certainly delete one of the handicapping's "Sacred Cows." Being of the mind set to utilize his new found information, Dave is working on how to use that information in one's handicapping approach. It should be quite interesting to say the least!!
We were assured that this is not a ploy to buy HSH but to be able to use
his new found nugget in one's handicapping no matter what approach you are using. More information will be forthcoming!!!
Maxspa

[PaceAdvantage]

Shoot...I told Dave I would attend that little meeting, but it looks like I missed it...no wonder Dave trusts you more than me Max... (just kidding Dave)

[Dave Schwartz]

LOL - PA, the problem isn't that I trust you less. The problem is that Light trusts you less.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

LOL - PA, the problem isn't that I trust you less. The problem is that Light trusts you less.

And here I always thought the title of who trusts me least went to Bruddah...oh well...

[Greyfox]

That's good to hear Dave. I'll look forward to seeing the product down the road.

[Dave Schwartz]

And for the record, what I actually showed tonight would be more like The Mystery of Pace.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Shoot...I told Dave I would attend that little meeting, but it looks like I missed it...no wonder Dave trusts you more than me Max... (just kidding Dave)

We waited for you, and when you didn't show up, we TALKED about you! Were your ears ringing?

Kidding.....

Hey, it was a eye-opener. New way to look at old familiar data and use it in a new way......got to play with it a while, but it looks like a neat way to use old data. I thought it was a clever way to analyze pace scenarios. I think this will end up being interesting to many.

[TrifectaMike]

The difficulty with pace and form is that they are indistinguishable and unobserved. However, Cratos in one of his threads mentioned the difference between speed and velocity. Within his definition lies the clue to the question of form. All of you have seen it in the worst case.

There is a small segment of the race which one can use to infer form, and it's due to an acceleration which is not measurable, but the effect of it is observable.

Mike

[JustRalph]

was the show taped? captured anywhere?

[Dave Schwartz]

No. It is about 6 months premature. It will be a new product: Early or Late: Unlocking the Mystery of Pace.

The reason for our meeting was that I made a provocative statement in another thread that said the EP call was the least important call at the track. Tonight, in this little meeting, I endeavored to prove it.

The witnesses I invited were there to observe and confirm my discovery.


Dave

[Mike A]

Dave, does this discovery have much to do with, or build upon your earlier, generally stated contention that most horses tend to run their most efficient races when they run at a pace that is somewhat faster than what conventional pace analysis says is ideal for them? (I am extrapolating a little on a post you made here some time back.)..And then giving a higher weight, and/or contention-separating strength, to the final fraction, in races where conventional pace analysis wouldn't?

p.s., Feel free to let me know if I'm just waaaay off here

[Dave Schwartz]

Way off here.

[lsosa54]

Max,Tom: What's it going to take to bribe you guys? A night out with the Dallas Cowboy's cheerleaders? Name your price, gentlemen.

[Dave Schwartz]

Tom, you slut... resist, man!

[lsosa54]

Tom may well resist but the monkey won't!