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Old 07-08-2009, 03:23 PM   #1
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Should this guy be ruled off for repeated drug violations?

This is pretty astounding stuff. Where are the people who are supposed to be "cleaning up" the game?

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/zi...ions-on-chaos/

I have already notified the management at Tampa Bay Downs that I will not bet on any race in the upcoming 2009/10 meet that Kirk Ziadie has an entrant in. This is a track that ruled off a handful of jockeys based upon hearsay evidence. How can it let this drugstore cowboy operate there in light of his repeated violations?
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When a horse gets disqualified, the monies get redistributed, except to the horseplayer who had a ticket not including the offender. Why not make trainers be bonded so that when disqualified for a med violation, the trainer's bond pays the players who now hold winning tickets? Bet there wouldn't be nearly as many med violations if this were the rule.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:09 PM   #3
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When a horse gets disqualified, the monies get redistributed, except to the horseplayer who had a ticket not including the offender. Why not make trainers be bonded so that when disqualified for a med violation, the trainer's bond pays the players who now hold winning tickets? Bet there wouldn't be nearly as many med violations if this were the rule.
Sounds like a fine idea, where do i sign up
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:12 PM   #4
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This is pretty astounding stuff. Where are the people who are supposed to be "cleaning up" the game?

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/zi...ions-on-chaos/

I have already notified the management at Tampa Bay Downs that I will not bet on any race in the upcoming 2009/10 meet that Kirk Ziadie has an entrant in. This is a track that ruled off a handful of jockeys based upon hearsay evidence. How can it let this drugstore cowboy operate there in light of his repeated violations?
The guy is making a complete mockery out of horse racing.
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I know some don't believe in speed figures and "jumps" in figures, but anyone who has seen what this guy has done in the past would have to be suspicious, even before the long list of drug infractions.
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Who is....

....the "racing fan and horseplayer" that brought this to Ray's attention..... anyone we know?

Thanks for posting, Richard.
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Anyone check to see if this fellow Ziadie is in the Guinness Book of Records? It's pretty imnpressive for just six years as a trainer.
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Reading the embarrassing size of the fines (or lack there of) makes my head explode. What was it…30 rulings at 13k total? Don’t we have laws against defrauding the public in a financial transaction? Thanks for posting this and to Ray Paulick for using his forum wisely.

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When I read about this SOB, Ziadie, I nearly fell off my chair...I was gonna post the story over on the thread about Dutrow's suspension when I was there to post the link to the Assmussen hearing in Texas...then, as soon as I saw the 'headline' for this thread...I knew it was about Ziadie.

Incredible this guy is still training horses...what in hell is wrong with Tampa...this guy needs to be rulled off...Point Given's suggestion for bonding trainers sounds pretty damned good to me...and to boycott any race Ziadie has a horse in is another excellent idea ...
well, now that this cat is outta the bag...maybe Tampa will kick his ass outta there.
He's a disgrace, and I feel sad for the horses under his so called care.
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Why the venom on Tampa?? Most of his violations were at Calder and he has them from Delaware to Minnesota. I think the racing establishment in general should clamp down on this guy.

Hey, bond the trainers and lets all hold our tickets!!! How cool would that be
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Cool

It is time to look at all trainers with super ratings.
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Why the venom on Tampa?? Most of his violations were at Calder and he has them from Delaware to Minnesota. I think the racing establishment in general should clamp down on this guy.

Hey, bond the trainers and lets all hold our tickets!!! How cool would that be
OOOPPPSSSS My bad...I meant Calder
And yep...every track he's ever set foot on should ban him...he's a disgrace!
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What a joke this guy is!! This guy needs to be banned for good.He must have some heavy money behind him to keep getting off. Not fair to the hard working people who have to run against him.I dont understand why they would let him stay in the game?..Who does he think he is..
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What a joke this guy is!! This guy needs to be banned for good.He must have some heavy money behind him to keep getting off. Not fair to the hard working people who have to run against him.I dont understand why they would let him stay in the game?..Who does he think he is..
he can always get a job at duane reade or cvs......It never ceases to amaze me when i hear things like this....In nascar mayfield was suspended immediately.What if his horses break down seriously injuring his jock or another jock in the race!I bet on more than a few races at tampa this year ....not next meeting though..nor calder either

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