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Old 07-03-2009, 01:24 PM   #1
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HANA Goes Hollywood

http://blog.horseplayersassociation....ool-party.html

This week we're taking the pool party to Hollywood Park. Actually, it was a case of them inviting us... and we were only too happy to oblige...

So here's the heads up:

This week's Pool Party race is on Sunday July 5, 2009... HOL R8... The American Oaks.

Look for us to have free pps and more...

And come to the party, it's a very nice race - you just might be glad that you did. <G>


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Old 07-03-2009, 02:21 PM   #2
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:33 PM   #3
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Right now on TVG, there is a special The Works covering the contestants of the American Oaks, just started a few minutes ago.
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:47 PM   #4
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how have the pool parties been doing?? i haven't been able to follow
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Old 07-04-2009, 03:18 PM   #5
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We've got Thorograph data so far:
http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/rea...3249#msg-53249
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:16 PM   #6
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If Hollywood ever goes final, I'll post the PaceFigures for the race.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:45 PM   #7
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:46 PM   #8
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Got an email from Trackmaster, and the PP's should be ready in an hour.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:53 PM   #9
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Send them on and I'll post them at the usual spot.
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:03 PM   #10
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Thanks CJ, everything is linked on our last blog post now:
http://blog.horseplayersassociation....ool-party.html
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I hope it is OK to post this here. If not will the moderator please remove it.

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Race 8 - 10.0 Furlongs; T G1  700000; Post Time is  7:39 Eastern Time
                           Fair   ML   Trainer     Jockey    ES    LS
 Pgm#       Horse          Odds  Odds  Sts Win%   Sts Win%  Rank  Rank  QSP  RS
  14 MRS KIPLING            3.1   6.0  117 15.4   270  9.3    1    2     3   P  
  13 WELL MONIED            4.6   4.5   58 15.5   800 17.6    3    5     0   S  
  7  ACTING LADY            7.1  12.0  456 15.6   701 22.1    4    8     1   P  
  1  GOZZIP GIRL            7.5   3.5  155 25.8   476 19.3   10    4     3   P  
  10 AFTERNOON STROLL       7.6  30.0  168 14.3   633 10.9    9    1     8   EP 
  11 THE BEST DAY EVER     10.5  15.0  252 20.6   648 13.0   11    7     0   S  
  2  MAGICAL AFFAIR        10.7   6.0  174 17.2   719 20.6   12    3     1   P  
  15 DAYLUMNEY             11.7  30.0   89 11.2   407 18.9    2   10     5   P  
  3  THIRD DAWN            12.0  20.0  300 19.7   532 22.2    5    9     2   EP 
  12 LEXLENOS              16.7  30.0  161 13.0   431 15.5    6    6     3   S  
  8  PRETTY UNUSUAL        17.0  50.0  154  9.1   589 14.8    7   11     0   S  
  4  APPLE CHARLOTTE        N/A   4.0     ** Data Unavailable **
  9  NAN                  100.5  20.0  115 16.5   262  9.5    8   12     1   S  
  6  PUTTANESCA             N/A  15.0     ** Data Unavailable **
  16 WAKE ME NOW            N/A  30.0     ** Data Unavailable **
  5  RARE RANSOM            N/A  12.0     ** Data Unavailable **
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:29 AM   #12
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The following is a summary of my throughts so far regarding the 2009 American Oaks:


The 2009 edition of the American Oaks has shaped up to be a fantastic betting race with a plethora of potential angles to follow. However, I think the best starting point for any analysis of this race is with the two SoCal fillies which have the markings of potential future turf star fillies, Well Monied and Mrs. Kipling (and both have the far outside posts to contend with). The two have yet to meet, with Mrs. Kipling having a slight experience edge with one more lifetime start and an early schooling in Europe including a third place in the Group 3 Wilmott Dixon Cornwallis over 5 furlongs at Ascot at 2 and her dominating win in the Senorita showed her affinity for the Hollywood turf as well as a level of professionalism and talent. In addition, she had a sharp 6 furlong sharp work coming into this race and I caught some footage of her schooling in the paddock during racing this afternoon at Hollywood Park and she looked simply fantastic. On the negative side, Mrs. Kipling is coming off the second longest layoff in the field (63 days) and along with Rare Ransom and Afternoon Stroll, has yet to race over a mile. Well Monied has been brought into this race through a steady rise through the ranks coming off three consecutive wins and has done so well within herself and having kept a close eye on her progress since her maiden win, this is the filly which I expect to rise to the increased level of competition and beyond. Then there are the international invaders, including the only two fillies who have gone this far, Puttanesca, who won the Group 2 New Zealand Royal Bloodstock and was third is the Group 3 Cambridge Stud in New Zealand , and Apple Charlotte, who won the Sweetham Stud Fillies Trial and was second in the Ballymacoll Stud Lord Weinstock Memorial. I have a problem betting a New Zealand horse coming from their winter into the hot summers of SoCal and those who have eventually become successful in SoCal usually seem to need some significant time to acclimate so I will in all likelihood toss Puttanesca, even though she is technically a four year old and has been successful over the distance. Apple Charlotte and Rare Ransom are the two fillies representing Europe and appear to have made the trip in good order and have also made good accounts of themselves out in the mornings at Hollywood Park and it goes without saying that both have exceptional trainers who know how to ship to the US. The morning line favorite, Gozzip Girl, has shown versatility in her races having won on the lead last out over a yielding Belmont turf course with little pace to rallying from behind on a fast and firm Gulfstream turf course, and the additional distance should be no problem

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Old 07-05-2009, 11:22 AM   #13
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how have the pool parties been doing?? i haven't been able to follow
Likewise...would be nice to see the results and the impact we have made on the pools, all in one table.

Just wondering if we have gone off "message"....I was under the assumption the Pool Parties were a way to let track management know we were out here. I wonder how much we will move the needle on the handle of what appears to be the biggest race running today. Granted, maybe this approach has been discussed already. If so, a thousand pardons.

What metrics are we using to identify what impact HANA has on the parimutuel pools? (especially in today's case)
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FWIW, I'll play the race today, bringing me out of my handicapping vacation.

I typically will wager in the win pool with perhaps some small exactas. If all bets in support of the HANA pool party were made into the same pool, whatever that pool might be, perhaps you might get some statistical indication. But other than that, the only other way to tell would be for every one to use the same ADW and have some "inside" help to track/analize the action.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:41 AM   #15
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Likewise...would be nice to see the results and the impact we have made on the pools, all in one table.

Just wondering if we have gone off "message"....I was under the assumption the Pool Parties were a way to let track management know we were out here. I wonder how much we will move the needle on the handle of what appears to be the biggest race running today. Granted, maybe this approach has been discussed already. If so, a thousand pardons.

What metrics are we using to identify what impact HANA has on the parimutuel pools? (especially in today's case)
Hi D,

It has been a bit hard to do with the big pools. Those are all estimates.

I kept track on the blog of the small pools. $20-25K seems to be the norm, but that seems to change. We have had piles of scattering data. This week will be another which is hard to gauge, but next week the plan is to blitz a smaller track, possibly mid week to see what we can do. Suggestions are being bandied about on the handletalks thread.
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