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11-22-2008, 11:10 AM
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michael gill
he is back now as big as he ever has been. the man is now using 4 or five trainers on the grounds at penn national, i see him in philadelphia, and i knwo he always has loved maryland racing.
i have always called for a change in the purse distribution structure. michael gill is taking care of that all by himself. he is running 2 horses every race at all these tracks, most of them are competitive. if you are a trainer that has only a few horses and are trying to make a score off them, you better forget it, mike gill will claim it off you. he is helping make horseracing competitive once again at lower level racing. the only problem i can for see him having is that since he is not afraid to pull the trigger at the claim box, he might wind up with all the horses that fit the condition's. he will have races with nothing but all his own horses in it!
it looks like he took 2 years off to regroup and come up with a new plan for his racing empire. i hope he steps up to the plate at the sales, he brings great action there!! mike gill need to spend some of that money he made during the housing boom with his morgage business. kinda like giving something back to the poor people.
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11-23-2008, 09:01 PM
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I wonder if Gill showed a huge profit playing the claiming game the way he did or does again......I would say so if he's up to his old tricks.
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11-23-2008, 09:30 PM
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he don't make no money at this game. i am buying horses to run just so he claims them from me. he did it before a few years ago. the man just broke the record for a claim at penn national. he coughed up $50,000 for a horse that was trained by scott lake. that horse ain't worth $10,000, he got a lucky 3rd with the horse last night in a 2x optional allowance race.
this game needs about 300 more michael gill's in it.
i love the guy
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11-24-2008, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
he don't make no money at this game. i am buying horses to run just so he claims them from me. he did it before a few years ago. the man just broke the record for a claim at penn national. he coughed up $50,000 for a horse that was trained by scott lake. that horse ain't worth $10,000, he got a lucky 3rd with the horse last night in a 2x optional allowance race.
this game needs about 300 more michael gill's in it.
i love the guy
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Buying from Scott Lake? Wow, he sure will make a huge profit doing that. He is getting back into the game at a good time, there are a lot of smaller outfits looking to get out and as you can see the claims are down considerably from a year ago at most tracks. I know Gill had success with Schuman does he still use him?
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11-24-2008, 10:08 AM
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as far as i can see he no longer uses shuman or his favorite guy gammy vasquez,, for that matter no carlos figueroa either. he is using taglianetti, hooper, marcus vitali, and murray rojas at penn national. i am sure he is looking for others as we speak.
i wish michael gill all the sucess in the horse business! in the mean time i will be buying horses to run in penn national so he can claim them as many as he wishes.
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11-24-2008, 10:55 AM
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He passed on Devine Master at the Meadowlands Murray got him for another owner.
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11-24-2008, 02:47 PM
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This guy is a RS's dream come true,Claims them runs them back giving you a chance to claim them back. This is my kind of guy,I love to run and I love to claim...The man is good for the game...Welcome back M Gill
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11-24-2008, 05:59 PM
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[QUOTE=McSchell_Racing]This guy is a RS's dream come true,Claims them runs them back giving you a chance to claim them back. This is my kind of guy,I love to run and I love to claim...The man is good for the game...Welcome back M Gill[/QUOTE
I think both owners have enough cash to get them into the next century. Yes it is good for the game, just remember its the "claiming" game one of the toughest to be successful at. Look at Paul Pompa he is very successful at it, he is one of the few!
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11-24-2008, 07:27 PM
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this game needs about 300 more michael gill's in it.
i love the guy[/QUOTE]
I see he had a few issues with the New Hampshire and Mass. banking departments in regards to the Mortgage Specialists a company he owns in these states. www.paulickreport.com/blog/tag/mike-gill/ he had a big claiming year. At Philly park 30+ in September alone thus far. Good time to get back in if you have the money!
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11-24-2008, 08:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
he don't make no money at this game. i am buying horses to run just so he claims them from me. he did it before a few years ago. the man just broke the record for a claim at penn national. he coughed up $50,000 for a horse that was trained by scott lake. that horse ain't worth $10,000, he got a lucky 3rd with the horse last night in a 2x optional allowance race.
this game needs about 300 more michael gill's in it.
i love the guy
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Are there any horses at Penn worth 20K much less 50K? I mean come on Gill i love the way you claim, jam em up there, and win 2-3 in a row but come on dude you got more sense that that. Claiming a 50K horse at Penn man are you on crack Gill? WTF???
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11-24-2008, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mineshaft
Are there any horses at Penn worth 20K much less 50K? I mean come on Gill i love the way you claim, jam em up there, and win 2-3 in a row but come on dude you got more sense that that. Claiming a 50K horse at Penn man are you on crack Gill? WTF???
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He must of seen something he liked in this one maybe a few conditions left or a stakes at another track, you never know in the claiming game what people are thinking sometimes.
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11-24-2008, 10:00 PM
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nice try onefast. this guy just loves to claim horses, he thinks he can make people cry!!
i tried to selll him horses, he don't want to buy them, he winds up claiming for more money.
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11-25-2008, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
nice try onefast. this guy just loves to claim horses, he thinks he can make people cry!!
i tried to selll him horses, he don't want to buy them, he winds up claiming for more money.
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By having a few trainers he is able to get information on certain horses in regards to their fitness. I find the one interesting thing in the claiming game is to stay away from Pletchers huge drop downs. Getting all the information on a horse you are looking to claim can make a huge difference if you get a decent one or someone elses problem. One of my past trainers always said you dont want to own the horse when he runs his last race.
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11-26-2008, 08:13 AM
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From the Nashua Telegraph
Loan firm charged with fraud settles in NH, Mass.
The Mortgage Specialists will pay $725,000 in fines after being charged with law violations
By ASHLEY SMITH, Staff Writer
A tri-state mortgage company with an office in Nashua has agreed to pay more than $700,000 to settle allegations of fraud in two states.
In separate settlements, The Mortgage Specialists, with one of its eight offices at 327 Amherst St., has agreed to pay fines of $425,000 for violations in New Hampshire and $300,000 for those in Massachusetts.
New Hampshire banking officials accused the company last month of forging signatures, destroying documents and breaking at least six other industry laws. Massachusetts quickly followed with allegations of falsifying income information and altering loan documents.
The rest:
http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/tri...1602699-1.html
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11-28-2008, 02:04 PM
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check out Gill's runner in the 4th at Aqu today (Friday Nov 28th) wins at 11-1
This horse has gone from winning 25k claimer at Del where claimed by Gill.
for Doug O'Neill
Takes 6 weeks off and comes back to win on Nov 8th by 12L improving 15 points in Beyer number in a 32nw3L at Del
Today he comes back today in a Alw50000s and wins in a head bob......... at 11-1...........
Anybody care to explain this one to me? I didn't play the race, but I wanna know how Gill and his trainer gets 15pts worth of Beyer out of a horse like this.......when Doug O'Neill couldn't............
Am I being Naive here?
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