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Old 02-24-2018, 01:28 PM   #31
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Great News!

Don't organizations like icareihelp deserve a little of that slots-generated money?
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Great News!

Don't organizations like icareihelp deserve a little of that slots-generated money?
Yes. And if it were done fairly and proportionately, Boyd Gaming would have to reprogram its slots at Delta for a higher "takeout" to cover their rescue obligations.

On her Twitter page Ms. Alborano is advocating a national "de-registration" program for all thoroughbreds coming off the track, saying that policy would help a lot. I confess I don't understand that issue.

https://twitter.com/icareihelp?lang=en
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Yes. And if it were done fairly and proportionately, Boyd Gaming would have to reprogram its slots at Delta for a higher "takeout" to cover their rescue obligations.

On her Twitter page Ms. Alborano is advocating a national "de-registration" program for all thoroughbreds coming off the track, saying that policy would help a lot. I confess I don't understand that issue.

https://twitter.com/icareihelp?lang=en
How much money goes uncollected by bettors every year at the racetracks across the country? And, how much money in breakage is unfairly collected that rightfully belongs to the bettors? If the horse racing industry really had a conscience...then a petition would be made to allocate all these funds for the benefit of these unfortunate animals. This money isn't the track's, nor the state's. It belongs to the PLAYERS...and it should be put to better use than it is now.
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Don't organizations like icareihelp deserve a little of that slots-generated money?

Yes.
Far more so than any track does.
And the tracks should be kicking in too, say, a a 2% fee from every MSW race run, and 5% from every maiden claimer.
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How much money goes uncollected by bettors every year at the racetracks across the country? And, how much money in breakage is unfairly collected that rightfully belongs to the bettors? If the horse racing industry really had a conscience...then a petition would be made to allocate all these funds for the benefit of these unfortunate animals. This money isn't the track's, nor the state's. It belongs to the PLAYERS...and it should be put to better use than it is now.
What racing rule or law states it belongs to the PLAYERS?
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What racing rule or law states it belongs to the PLAYERS?


The players say so - you know the CUSTOMERS.
The people that put it in the pools in the first place.
You thought it grew on trees?
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What racing rule or law states it belongs to the PLAYERS?
Yes...you are right. We have great rules and laws in this game.
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No, I know that there are rules and laws in place that specifically designate who has ownership of those monies.

I was curious what rule or law stated it belonged to the players.
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No, I know that there are rules and laws in place that specifically designate who has ownership of those monies.

I was curious what rule or law stated it belonged to the players.
Do you know how "those monies" are currently used? Wouldn't it be better if they were used to fund the "retirements" of these horses?
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It is different for every track. I know of one track that will honor any outs ticket from the day they opened if it has not been cashed. In that case, it could be argued that all the uncashed money is still available for the players with winning tickets - even though it is very rare a ticket older than a couple of years will ever get brought in for redemption.

Everyone feels bad for the horses who get hurt or don't have what it takes to run. We also feel bad for the jockeys that get hurt and don't have adequate insurance to cover their bills.

It is easy to say 'somebody should pay for that, but it shouldn't be me'.
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It is different for every track. I know of one track that will honor any outs ticket from the day they opened if it has not been cashed. In that case, it could be argued that all the uncashed money is still available for the players with winning tickets - even though it is very rare a ticket older than a couple of years will ever get brought in for redemption.

Everyone feels bad for the horses who get hurt or don't have what it takes to run. We also feel bad for the jockeys that get hurt and don't have adequate insurance to cover their bills.

It is easy to say 'somebody should pay for that, but it shouldn't be me'.
The horseplayer isn't saying "somebody should pay for that, but it shouldn't be me". The horseplayer pays for EVERYTHING!
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If everyone stopped betting on horse racing it seems like a lot of problems would be solved including this one.
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The horseplayer isn't saying "somebody should pay for that, but it shouldn't be me". The horseplayer pays for EVERYTHING!
One way of looking at it - but you are using selective reasoning.

Who paid you? Are they then paying for everything? Who paid them?
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So...the slaughterhouse paid $300-$500 for the doomed horse...but they wanted $1,250 from the rescue organization. Nice people to do business with.
Yeah the kill lots really tug at the heart of the rescue people. Its a scummy practise.

Anyway, even if a horse of any breed is bred from the start to only be food, the actual slaughter and transportation of horses compared to other animals is horrific. I mean, at least design carriers for horses instead of using cattle trailers.

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One way of looking at it - but you are using selective reasoning.

Who paid you? Are they then paying for everything? Who paid them?
I can't see your point in this thread. If something needs to be done to stop the shameful practice of shipping these racehorses to Mexico by the thousands...then, who in your opinion should initiate this move...and who should PAY for it?

Or do we just leave things as they are?
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