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Old 02-05-2018, 06:44 PM   #1
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More Federal money for ObamaCare?

The elimination of the individual mandate will likely result in major increases in rates for 2019. Those rates will be made public before the election, and insurance companies will certainly put the blame on the Republicans. Some Republicans in Congress are worried that could hurt their reelection chances, and are working with Democrats to throw some big bucks at the insurance companies to minimize rate increases.

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The transfusion is expected to be a concoction of two bills. The first, championed by Sens. Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.) and Patty Murray (D., Wash.), would appropriate cost-sharing-reduction payments to insurers. The second, sponsored by Sens. Susan Collins (R., Maine) and Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), would give insurers an additional $10 billion (and perhaps more) in federal cash.

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Old 02-05-2018, 06:54 PM   #2
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The elimination of the individual mandate will likely result in major increases in rates for 2019. Those rates will be made public before the election, and insurance companies will certainly put the blame on the Republicans. Some Republicans in Congress are worried that could hurt their reelection chances, and are working with Democrats to throw some big bucks at the insurance companies to minimize rate increases.
No one saw that coming...
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guess it's no different than subsidies for those that buy insurance with tax payers money
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Our insurance tripled under Obamacare this year and that was with my wife taking a $500 a month decrease in her pay.
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when they get done taking this S+P apart, no one will be able to pay for health insurance. everyone like to take the credit for good things and blame the other guy if it doesn't go right. i blame Hillary.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:26 PM   #6
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guess it's no different than subsidies for those that buy insurance with tax payers money
It's different because subsidies are still flowing. This is MORE money to help offset the massive premium hikes by failing carriers due to the removal of the mandate.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:49 PM   #7
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Conservatives have long disagreed among themselves on important details, which is why Republican leaders abandoned repeal efforts after last Julyís disastrous Senate vote. Members who havenít given up on repeal continue to argue over the billís details. In seeking the optimal politically feasible outcome, they should operate with a sense of urgency and a willingness to compromise.

If they donít coalesce behind something soon, they will find themselves bystanders as their GOP colleagues link arms with Democrats to preserve and enlarge Obamacare, not to repeal and replace it.
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It's getting more difficult for any politician to convince voters there's any difference between the parties, because well, there's not. They are both out to pick your pockets.

I'm cynical enough to believe removing the individual mandate is simply a method for .GOV to identify the young and/or healthy pool of potential resistors who want to keep more of their earnings, which gets you on yet another "list".

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Our insurance tripled under Obamacare this year and that was with my wife taking a $500 a month decrease in her pay.
Is that in addition to the 2-3x rate increase over the last 4 years? or did your insurance company not realize they were bleeding?
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Phuck 'em let them cut their pay and bonuses... they post record profits and whine it's not enough. This constant handout shit has to stop. Corporate Welfare plain and simple.

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Phuck 'em let them cut their pay and bonuses... they post record profits and whine it's not enough. This constant handout shit has to stop. Corporate Welfare plain and simple.
... but all healthcare related CEOs have multimillion dollar salaries, they need to pay that much to stay competitive with the industry and if they don't pay it the CEOs will go somewhere else....
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Actually insurance companies have mandated MLRs by law in the ACA. They must hit a 80-85% loss ratio or they have to issue rebates.

The government is going to have to bailout carriers because of the mandate removal... surprised no one on here said that... wait...

Not to get in the way of the YUGE winning going on or anything.

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Phuck 'em let them cut their pay and bonuses... they post record profits and whine it's not enough. This constant handout shit has to stop. Corporate Welfare plain and simple.
ObamaCare is and always was a money loser without subsidies and mandates. Insurances company rates are regulated by state commissioners, and they are not making obscene profits on OCare. Many insurers have pulled out of the market because they were losing money, even with subsidies and mandates.

OCare is a welfare program disguised to look like private insurance, and it has to be funded like a welfare program. And the Republicans don't have the guts to come out and say it, so they have to continue to prop it up.
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they should have just tied welfare health care to VA hospitals and teaching hospitals rather than screwing up health insurance for the majority of americans
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Actually insurance companies have mandated MLRs by law in the ACA. They must hit a 80-85% loss ratio or they have to issue rebates.

The government is going to have to bailout carriers because of the mandate removal... surprised no one on here said that... wait...

Not to get in the way of the YUGE winning going on or anything.
In 2018 the ACA will be repealed completely, the influx of jobs as a result of tax reform will be constant. Obama will be a white haired old man and there still will be no single payer system. All those who complain will be but just a fart in the wind as time marches on.
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In 2018 the ACA will be repealed completely, the influx of jobs as a result of tax reform will be constant. Obama will be a white haired old man and there still will be no single payer system. All those who complain will be but just a fart in the wind as time marches on.
Didn't they have all last year to get that done and failed?

I would quote all the times I said gutting wasn't a victory and it would require taxpayer bailouts but I think you remember that.

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