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Old 02-01-2018, 03:59 PM   #91
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i don't know who is going to win this game, but i highly recommend you bet the Pats -4 before the line shoots up to 6 or more.
No Patriot money will show up this time around. The New England faithful went broke on the Jacksonville game.
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Old 02-03-2018, 11:51 AM   #92
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i don't know who is going to win this game, but i highly recommend you bet the Pats -4 before the line shoots up to 6 or more.

Nobody really staying at -4 they don't want a push. 5 is a dead number but they really want the half...so maybe 5.5 if all the Pats money does show up. Right now it looks like 4.5
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The TV blather is hilarious, but you can't beat reality. Nick Foles is a good QB on an awesome team. The Eagles defense folded but they made the big play LAST. New England's defense was terrible. Their offensive line held up better than i thought it would but the defense was a weakness against every good team they played this year. When you see NE giving up 30 points a game at home there's problems......Yeah, you can beat up on the tomato cans in the middle of the season, but that defense got torched a good portion of the year. They could not get the Eagles off the field. You can try to take one Eagle away but they have 5(at any given play) people they can dish the ball to. The Eagle offensive line ran over that defense like they were pansies on running plays.

Tom Brady played his usual great game, but as I always say, he doesn't cover people, block people or tackle people. Its a team sport! The Eagles won on aggressive calls and basic football. They out blocked and out tackled the New England Patriots. Bill Belichick wears the dunce cap and Doug Pederson looks like the genius. He done out Patriotated the Patriots.
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Have to give credit to Nick Foles. When he put up insane numbers in 2013, people said he benefitted from the system and Chip Kelly got 100% of the credit. And when Foles' performance came back to earth, that opinion seemed solidified.

Maybe 2013 wasn't all Chip Kelly.
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Wonder if the Detroit Lions are having second thoughts about hiring Matt Patricia as HC, after the atrocious performance by the defense last night.

Something I found out the other day is that Patricia has a degree in aeronautical engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI). So the guy is literally a rocket scientist.
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Wonder if the Detroit Lions are having second thoughts about hiring Matt Patricia as HC, after the atrocious performance by the defense last night.

Something I found out the other day is that Patricia has a degree in aeronautical engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI). So the guy is literally a rocket scientist.
I was having second thoughts before the playoffs when it was rumored. NE coordinators do not do well outside of the system and the Lions woes are offensive line and run game related.

I wasn't stoked then and honestly not stoked now. If we were going to take a NE coordinator I wanted McDaniels.
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I was having second thoughts before the playoffs when it was rumored. NE coordinators do not do well outside of the system and the Lions woes are offensive line and run game related.

I wasn't stoked then and honestly not stoked now. If we were going to take a NE coordinator I wanted McDaniels.
I think the problem they all have (including Belicheat) is Tom Brady. When they no longer have him under center, they become average. Billy's day will come, and I expect Brady to meet Father Time next year. His throws already look a little slower and arched than they were a couple years ago. When the defenses start playing tight on his receivers, he will be done.
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the guy that replaced Butler had no clue what he was doing on the field. the reason they didn't play Butler is a story that none of us know why. no doubt the Eagles ate up the Pats defense for lunch. The Eagle defense wasn't exactly the steel curtain either. throw in Brady missing a few open receivers and you now have an Eagle victory.

anyway it turned out to be one of the better Super Bowls to watch.
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I think the problem they all have (including Belicheat) is Tom Brady. When they no longer have him under center, they become average. Billy's day will come, and I expect Brady to meet Father Time next year. His throws already look a little slower and arched than they were a couple years ago. When the defenses start playing tight on his receivers, he will be done.
That's an understatement, without him they may not of made the playoffs this year. That team without him and Gronk really is not much. Both of them are getting old, Brady is going to be 41 and Gronk has been hurt so many times he can't even run/move right. He looks like the Tin Man. This ship is slowly sinking and they have been fortunate to be in the AFC East. I'm a Bills fan but i can admit its been the worst division for at least 15 years. They get the chump schedule and most years home field, they have had superior teams up til this year but its been a cushy ride. Brady will go down as one of the greatest QB's of all time but you are right he makes more mistakes now throwing and furthermore he is a sitting duck in the pocket. He never was a great scrambler he used to step one way or the other to buy time, now he just goes down. By upper management forcing the trade of Jim Garoppolo they just stuck a fork in themselves unless they find a miracle. That team laterally rode on his back this year and, Kraft is loyal to him til the end and the end is coming soon. I agree, 2018 may be it for him. If it isn't he has two seasons tops but it may not end pretty at that.
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That's an understatement, without him they may not of made the playoffs this year. That team without him and Gronk really is not much. Both of them are getting old, Brady is going to be 41 and Gronk has been hurt so many times he can't even run/move right. He looks like the Tin Man. This ship is slowly sinking and they have been fortunate to be in the AFC East. I'm a Bills fan but i can admit its been the worst division for at least 15 years. They get the chump schedule and most years home field, they have had superior teams up til this year but its been a cushy ride. Brady will go down as one of the greatest QB's of all time but you are right he makes more mistakes now throwing and furthermore he is a sitting duck in the pocket. He never was a great scrambler he used to step one way or the other to buy time, now he just goes down. By upper management forcing the trade of Jim Garoppolo they just stuck a fork in themselves unless they find a miracle. That team laterally rode on his back this year and, Kraft is loyal to him til the end and the end is coming soon. I agree, 2018 may be it for him. If it isn't he has two seasons tops but it may not end pretty at that.
Your right. Kraft let sentimentality cloud his football sense. Branch Rickey always said better to get rid of a guy a year too early than a year too late.
Brady can still play but for how long? Garoppolo could be around for 10-15 years .Kraft made a mistake and Belichek knows it.It was a great run in this era of free agency. Probably won't be matched again.
Having said all that .Pats are favorites in Vegas to win it all next year.
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... and they have been fortunate to be in the AFC East. I'm a Bills fan but i can admit its been the worst division for at least 15 years. They get the chump schedule and most years home field, they have had superior teams up til this year but its been a cushy ride.
It's pretty obvious that the NFL wants (and has successfully arranged that) the Patriots to have a 'sparring partner' division, and every chance at home field.

The NFL is a media-revenue business. As it's grown that way over the years, the Patriots happen to be a successful model franchise, with a large market-share. The Steelers haven't exactly had the toughest division in the league either, for most recent NFL seasons.

The NBA is just as bad, if not worse with power-concentration, but recently they love to flaunt the ability to sell a major market team like the Knicks and Lakers without worrying about quality, while doing a great job of manufacturing marketing star-vehicles in less organic markets like Lebron James' Cleveland in the East, and the power-house they have in Golden State.

It really stood out this year with 4 teams go 13-3 this year (w/ Eagles and Vikings). You think '13-3' and you think of some ass-kicking superteam that is loaded with talent, and playing perfect football. These teams were a serious contender in any game they played, but far from juggernauts, save perhaps the Eagles, with the way they capped off the year.
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It's pretty obvious that the NFL wants (and has successfully arranged that) the Patriots to have a 'sparring partner' division, and every chance at home field.

The NFL is a media-revenue business. As it's grown that way over the years, the Patriots happen to be a successful model franchise, with a large market-share. The Steelers haven't exactly had the toughest division in the league either, for most recent NFL seasons.

The NBA is just as bad, if not worse with power-concentration, but recently they love to flaunt the ability to sell a major market team like the Knicks and Lakers without worrying about quality, while doing a great job of manufacturing marketing star-vehicles in less organic markets like Lebron James' Cleveland in the East, and the power-house they have in Golden State.

It really stood out this year with 4 teams go 13-3 this year (w/ Eagles and Vikings). You think '13-3' and you think of some ass-kicking superteam that is loaded with talent, and playing perfect football. These teams were a serious contender in any game they played, but far from juggernauts, save perhaps the Eagles, with the way they capped off the year.
Good point, it just goes to show how powerful the media is and the market power it possess. At least the Steelers division produced a Super Bowl winner. The AFC East has been a one trick pony........forever. The media is the highest source of power in todays world, many people watch the "News" and don't even question it. Its no wonder that the most powerful and most wealthy people are involved with managing the media.

As for the Patriots being favorites for next years Super Bowl.....I wouldn't bet a wooden nickel on that. That's probably low hanging fruit for the books, using said media. They can now milk this cow for a buck. At least for one more year. The bookies know the power of the media as well that's why i got 7 and 5.5 betting against the Patriots.
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