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Old 01-19-2018, 01:30 PM   #61
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Hoyer's not a complete stiff, he's been in the league 8 years and started about 30 games, he has a 48-30 TD/INT ratio and an 86.8 qb rating.He'se another Gus Ferrotte/Jon Kitna/Matt Hasselbeck type, a backup who can be an adequate fill-in for short bursts and will be probably be holding the clipboard and wearing the baseball cap on the sidelines until he's 40.

Did you miss what happened in his only real play-off game appearance?
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:35 PM   #62
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Did you miss what happened in his only real play-off game appearance?
I don't question that the Patriots will have a more difficult time winning if Brian Hoyer is the qb, but he's hardly some wet behind the ears rookie.He's still the most successful qb the Browns have had this decade.Which isn't saying much, I will concede.
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Old 01-19-2018, 05:34 PM   #63
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Tom Brady: "We'll see if I play Sunday".
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Tom Brady: "We'll see if I play Sunday".
We will be dead before he is out.
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We will be dead before he is out.
if Brady doesn't play, they will win by 20 instead of 40. this game is going to be a bloodbath no matter who plays quarterback
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Brady struggles against teams that can pressure him without blitzing. I'll take the Jags and the points.
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Tom Brady: "We'll see if I play Sunday".
I listened to both Brady's and Belichick's press conferences yesterday. I feel like I have a lot of information to make a good decision on who to bet on. I like Brady wearing gloves when interviewed. Why the media ever bothers putting a microphone in front of either of those two is beyond me. You aren't going to get any more than name, rank and serial number out of either of them. I don't know who it was but I heard another player interview asking about Brady's hand.
The guy said Brady was so handsome he only looks at his face.

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There's been too much late money on the Jaguars so ... I decided to bet the game and give the points.

Patriots defense along with Belichick's preparedness and coaching will stifle Bortles as I mentioned earlier. The popular Jags' run comes to a halt Sunday.

The Pats success will make it possible for the Jags to go after Eli Manning if he parts with the Giants. Bortles needs to win for him just be hinted as an elite or near elite QB. Not happening.

Plus, Brady with one hand, even if it's a throwing hand, is still better than most QBs in the NFL going full throttle.
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There's been too much late money on the Jaguars so ... I decided to bet the game and give the points.

Patriots defense along with Belichick's preparedness and coaching will stifle Bortles as I mentioned earlier. The popular Jags' run comes to a halt Sunday.

The Pats success will make it possible for the Jags to go after Eli Manning if he parts with the Giants. Bortles needs to win for him just be hinted as an elite or near elite QB. Not happening.

Plus, Brady with one hand, even if it's a throwing hand, is still better than most QBs in the NFL going full throttle.
Agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts on late money, reckless.When everybody runs to the same side of the boat, it usually sinks. I know the NFL is REALLY sensitive to exaggerating or concealing injuries, which is why the Pats are not commenting on Brady's hand.We will know in a few plays how severe the injury, if any, is.
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Agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts on late money, reckless.When everybody runs to the same side of the boat, it usually sinks. I know the NFL is REALLY sensitive to exaggerating or concealing injuries, which is why the Pats are not commenting on Brady's hand.We will know in a few plays how severe the injury, if any, is.
I like your line, barahona.

Good luck if you bet the game.
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I like your line, barahona.

Good luck if you bet the game.
i have a friend that went to vegas to bet the playoffs. we bet the pats the first week and won. the next night the line comes out and we make the same bet -9 thinking the line would go to 11. luckily i only bet what i won on the first game against Jacksonville. they put up -7 and i had to bet whatever i had left on that number.
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I agree with the over 23. The weather will be in the mid 40's and I am expecting some scoring.
We'll it was covered but Jacksonville looks pretty good. They must maintain their discipline or they will lose this game.
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There's been too much late money on the Jaguars so ... I decided to bet the game and give the points.

Patriots defense along with Belichick's preparedness and coaching will stifle Bortles as I mentioned earlier. The popular Jags' run comes to a halt Sunday.

The Pats success will make it possible for the Jags to go after Eli Manning if he parts with the Giants. Bortles needs to win for him just be hinted as an elite or near elite QB. Not happening.

Plus, Brady with one hand, even if it's a throwing hand, is still better than most QBs in the NFL going full throttle.

Yeah, they look really stifled??? Adjustment time.......... If they can't stop these guys, good luck if they make it to the next round.
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Bortles is 15/18 for 184 yards...and they won't let him throw on first and second down? The guy calling the offensive plays for the Jags must be an absolute MORON. How can you beat N.E. when you play scared like that? Why sit on the ball with a minute left and two timeouts at the half...after N.E. just scored a touchdown?
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Bortles is 15/18 for 184 yards...and they won't let him throw on first and second down? The guy calling the offensive plays for the Jags must be an absolute MORON. How can you beat N.E. when you play scared like that? Why sit on the ball with a minute left and two timeouts at the half...after N.E. just scored a touchdown?
Completely changed from last week when they played to win. Not so this week. They played scared in the 4th, the coaches that is.
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