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Old 01-06-2018, 06:15 AM   #16
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the market expands because someone or a group of someones thinks the underlying equities are worth more or will be worth more than the current price of the equity. the fed could raise rates to 100% and as long as a company can sell their goods and services for a bigger profit, it won't drag that equity down without the perception that the future will be bad.

the reason the markets have been on a tear is that there are other parts of the world that are consuming goods and services that they have never bought before, like Africa and Asia. once these area's become saturated, company's will have to find other area's to sell too. it could be the moon or some other planet!

since markets are correlated to the size of the population of the world and opening up their products to new parts we can understand what will bring the markets down. if there is going to be a bad war that wipes out tens of millions of people or a disease that takes people out we will see markets implode. everything else like changes in fed policies is nothing but hiccups to markets.
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the market expands because someone or a group of someones thinks the underlying equities are worth more or will be worth more than the current price of the equity. the fed could raise rates to 100% and as long as a company can sell their goods and services for a bigger profit, it won't drag that equity down without the perception that the future will be bad.

the reason the markets have been on a tear is that there are other parts of the world that are consuming goods and services that they have never bought before, like Africa and Asia. once these area's become saturated, company's will have to find other area's to sell too. it could be the moon or some other planet!

since markets are correlated to the size of the population of the world and opening up their products to new parts we can understand what will bring the markets down. if there is going to be a bad war that wipes out tens of millions of people or a disease that takes people out we will see markets implode. everything else like changes in fed policies is nothing but hiccups to markets.
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Or you could take the approach that the market has been correcting for the past 9 years. An external geopolitical event is what it will take to bring it down.
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there has not been a significant correction in the last 9 years of going up. i have never liked the volume characteristics over those 9 big years. just last week we got a terrible jobs number and what do the markets do? why of course they go up to all-time highs and no sight of anything to stop it from going higher.

there are trillions of dollars offshore legally and illegally, ready to come back to the shores of this country that will boost the markets to even further heights. dow 30,000 for sure, maybe 40 or 40 thousand too. this could happen fast or it could take some time like 5 or 6 years, but its happening. even though there will come a day when these markets implode more than it went up the last 9 years, its not about to happen for at least 4 years imho and probably longer.
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Or you could take the approach that the market has been correcting for the past 9 years. An external geopolitical event is what it will take to bring it down.
or a crazy North Korean......
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or a crazy North Korean......
If the crazy North Korean hurls an A-bomb into Japan, yes the market will take a hit.

But if he hurls it into NYC then it won't really matter what the market does, now will it?
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If the crazy North Korean hurls an A-bomb into Japan, yes the market will take a hit.

But if he hurls it into NYC then it won't really matter what the market does, now will it?
I really cant answer that cause I live in NYC
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I really cant answer that cause I live in NYC
I'd love to offer you my place as a safe refuge, Mike, but I live less than 90 miles away!

You're still welcome, anytime.
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the dow went up another 300 points and still looks mighty strong to me. this whole run from 14,000 has looked as legit as can be. below the 14,000 has some pretty shaky times, but to get there from here is next to impossible for the foreseeable future. i know nothing goes up all the time,and nothing goes down all the time either, but this thing is a locomotive that i would never want to step in front of. there must be plenty of shorts in this market on their way to getting cleaned out.
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What lambo said - "Don't fight the tape"!

Of course, it's mostly a Dow and tech rally - my little stocks are hardly moving.
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What lambo said - "Don't fight the tape"!

Of course, it's mostly a Dow and tech rally - my little stocks are hardly moving.
It's way, way more than just the 'tape', but I understand that sentiment too.

Your little stocks, OcalaMike ... are they real companies? If so, then just maybe you just have the wrong stocks.

here are a couple of small caps that still sell at a fraction of their intrinsic value, with great free cash flow, STRONG sales and earnings growth, and still priced cheaply, to boot. aND of most importance, basically still ignored by the market.

In no particular order:

Tegna
(TGNA), $15.03 closed today, $3.3 billion mkt cap, 1.85% div. yield

Sinclair Broadcasting (SGBI), $39.15 closed today, $4.0 b mkt cap, 1.83% div. yield

USG Inc. (USG), $39.30 closed today, $5.47 b mkt cap, zero div.

Old Republic
(ORI), $20.28 closed today, $5.3 b mkt cap, 3.76% div. yield

Discovery Communications
(DISCA), $24.70, closed today, $9.3 b mkt cap, zero div.

Plus, there are companies still very much ridiculously inexpensive previously mentioned by me previously. They are:

Apple (APPL), Gilead Sciences (GILD), United Therapeutics (UTHR), First American Financial (FAF), Fidelity National (FNF), and Viacom (VIAB).

Good luck.
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everyone always has their doubts about things. but what if all this is real, the job market improving for the past 8 years, the money being repatriated, the money that has been made in the markets the real estate values are all real?

this would first mean that the price of precious metals are correct today or maybe on the high side, a chunk could be paid down on the national debt. before he got elected Trump said he was going to do all these things. maybe he is capable of accomplishing what he said he would. this past few weeks there have been a few cracks like the employment numbers and rising rates.
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I took profits in Novavax and Tandem recently after they surged on guidance and such.

I am long Twitter and an educational software company called Instructure.
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Good luck Mike with your investments.
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No point in trying to be the hero and call the top. It does look very bubbly, but as long as the charts are strong, can't fade it.
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