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Old 12-30-2017, 08:20 AM   #1
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Civil Unrest Spreads Across Iran

Anti-Regime Protests Spread Across Iran

https://www.redstate.com/john-tabin/...tm_campaign=nl

Unlike Obama, who strongly supported the Israeli-hating, terrorist-supporting state, Trump voiced strong support for the protestors.

President Trumpís Excellent Message of Support for the Protesters in Iran

https://www.redstate.com/absentee/20...otesters-iran/
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I kinda hope we stay out of it. We didn't support the Shah when civil unrest in support of an Islamic religious tyrant took force. They got what they asked for, a leadership as bad as the Nazis. Now they want it removed....Fk em!!
We don't need a nuclear conflict with Iran, we have enough trouble elsewhere.
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I kinda hope we stay out of it. We didn't support the Shah when civil unrest in support of an Islamic religious tyrant took force. They got what they asked for, a leadership as bad as the Nazis. Now they want it removed....Fk em!!
We don't need a nuclear conflict with Iran, we have enough trouble elsewhere.
i agree with you, there is no way in hell we want to battle 80 million Persians. but it looks like we are more likely to go to war with Iran than North Korea.
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I agree completely with both you gents. In retrospect, the U.S. not only made a horrible foreign policy decision but over all these decades, we have become facilitators to that oppressive, tyrannical regime. (God only knows what the average Iranian citizen thinks about the U.S.)

Having said that, we mustn't compound a very big mistake either. And I think turning a blind eye to a very wicked and hostile regime is no solution at all. Again...the Iranian people would interpret that as us giving tacit approval to the religious tyrants/zealots that in office. (If Obama were still in office, this is precisely what he would do -- look the other way!) We should act based on the present situation and the future. Iran is too dangerous to ignore. And more than this -- the Iranian government has dangerous allies even more wicked them themselves: China and Russia!

If these protests continue, Iran is going to have to make some tough decisions. Either quell the demonstrations with violence while the entire world witnesses their barbaric, murderous cruelty motivated by their religion, thereby losing politically correct Muslim brownie points all over the socialist world order, or they'll pull a classic move by distracting the world from its internal problems by focusing everyone's attention on an external problem instead. For example, Israel to name an obvious one.

Trump will have his work cut out for him if this civil unrest persists over there.
He should start thinking who his Arab friends are and if they can be used to persuade Iran to back off their oppressive ways. Assuming, the U.S. has any Arab friends in the world, he could play the Muslim Public Relations card and how Iran's oppressive actions would not serve Islam well from a PR perspective. This would be my first line of positive diplomatic action.
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Iran has been poorly mishandled by every Administration since the fall of the Shah.

The statement by the current Administration is the correct one but what is going on behind the scenes is much more important. That we don't know.
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antifa has a chapter in Iran?
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Iran.
Bang, zoom.
To the moon.

Stinking bastards.
Good place for a smoking hole.
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i agree with you, there is no way in hell we want to battle 80 million Persians. but it looks like we are more likely to go to war with Iran than North Korea.
And those are just the ones living in Brentwood
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Perhaps their government will spend more time dealing with civil unrest and less time on their nuclear agenda.
Wait till they've beat each other into submission, then we move in and make claim to oil the Shah promised us 40 years ago. We had 50,000 employees contracted there when the revolution unfolded. They were forced out in a haste, taking personal belongings and leaving everything else behind.
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Donít forget. Dollar wise they support more terrorism on the planet than any other country
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Donít forget. Dollar wise they support more terrorism on the planet than any other country
I assume you mean Saudi Arabia, which is by far the greatest fomenter of terrorism in the world. Not even close. Find a country with a large or growing population of radicalized Islamists and you'll find a Saudi connection (via its Wahhabi Islamic teachings). Two great examples are Kosovo and Indonesia, especially Kosovo. Please do not read this as a defense of Iran, as it is not.
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I assume you mean Saudi Arabia, which is by far the greatest fomenter of terrorism in the world. Not even close. Find a country with a large or growing population of radicalized Islamists and you'll find a Saudi connection (via its Wahhabi Islamic teachings). Two great examples are Kosovo and Indonesia, especially Kosovo. Please do not read this as a defense of Iran, as it is not.
that can't be true - the Clintons have gotten millions from Saudi Arabia over the last couple decades - are the Clintons terrorists?
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that can't be true - the Clintons have gotten millions from Saudi Arabia over the last couple decades - are the Clintons terrorists?
The Clinton Foundation and the GW Bush library never should have accepted money from the Saudis, but they aren't making policy at this point. Trump's position on the Saudis during the campaign was correct. Unfortunately they kissed his ass a few months back, and he did a 180. That doesn't make Trump a terrorist, obviously, just wrong (same as the last four or five admins).
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I assume you mean Saudi Arabia, which is by far the greatest fomenter of terrorism in the world. Not even close. Find a country with a large or growing population of radicalized Islamists and you'll find a Saudi connection (via its Wahhabi Islamic teachings). Two great examples are Kosovo and Indonesia, especially Kosovo. Please do not read this as a defense of Iran, as it is not.
Really: "greatest fomenter of terrorism in the world"? And who is building nukes: The Saudis or Iran? (Please do not read this as a defense of Saudi Arabia because it ain't.
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Iran blocking out the world from witnessing the demonstrations going on. They're banning the internet on cell phones.

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