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Old 08-09-2017, 10:42 AM   #16
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They don't get it. The world is a game of Risk where if you roll 6s you can't get hurt.
Here's what I get: Slickster Willy got the world into this mess with the "great deal" he cut with NK. Now, its up to others to clean up his mess!
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Maybe we can send John Kerry and James Taylor over, they will surely smooth out the lumps.
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There will be no nuclear war or nukes launched on either side. We have the capability to prevent that from ever happening...
Oh really? Glad you feel secure about that. I sure as **** don't.
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Fact : NK has been itching for war for decades
Fact : NK will be annihilated. Their choice.
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Fact : NK has been itching for war for decades
Fact : NK will be annihilated. Their choice.
And they'll take South Korea with them.

Are you deliberately being dense?
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Oh really? Glad you feel secure about that. I sure as **** don't.
If you feel that insecure, then you should definitely NOT want to be looking towards a "business as usual" solution to this problem.

What would you suggest the President do, by the way? I'm curious to know what you think should happen. How would you go about solving the NK world problem?
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And they'll take South Korea with them.
That's a possibility...but it's not a very likely outcome.

So the risk of casualties in SK means what? We do nothing substantial or concrete? Just more words and sanctions?
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That's a possibility...but it's not a very likely outcome.

So the risk of casualties in SK means what? We do nothing substantial or concrete? Just more words and sanctions?
Trump could always get down on his knees and beg the Slickster to go back over there and fix his own mess. Then when the Slickster returns he can tell us all how much safer we all are due to a new deal he cut. That would also close the mouths of all snowlfakes, liberals and leftists and all kinds of other whiners.
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Trump could always get down on his knees and beg the Slickster to go back over there and fix his own mess. Then when the Slickster returns he can tell us all how much safer we all are due to a new deal he cut. That would also close the mouths of all snowlfakes, liberals and leftists and all kinds of other whiners.
Nice contribution from the queen of red herrings.

Come back and play when you can actually contribute.
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Nice contribution from the queen of red herrings.

Come back and play when you can actually contribute.
How are the origins of the current NK crisis a red herring?
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How are the origins of the current NK crisis a red herring?
You're right, as usual. He offered a sensible solution.
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I was being serious when I wrote that I'd like to hear your ideas on what the USA should do about NK. If you've already posted them elsewhere, I'll get to it eventually...
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BTW, everyone is fretting over all the artillery lined up on the SK border. How long do you think it would take for us to take that out entirely? I'm guessing not too long, so the casualties to SK from that particular threat probably won't amount to much.

It is my belief that NK is being propped up by the media as well as our own government to be a bigger threat then they actually are...

Doesn't mean they don't need to be dealt with in a manner inconsistent with the past. Just means they aren't as super-scary as they are made out to be...

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I was being serious when I wrote that I'd like to hear your ideas on what the USA should do about NK. If you've already posted them elsewhere, I'll get to it eventually...
[Sorry, I've been fighting like a Banshee trying to get back some of the 5K Trump cost me yesterday (and this morning) with his goddamn bullshit.]

China could starve NK to death. People want to eat. The onus has been on China for a long time now and everybody knows that. Cut off Korea's food and fuel and then they'd know the entire world was serious.

We could force China's hand by refusing to buy their products, trade tariffs etc. But obviously, China has yet to see this as the serious threat that it is.

China has to be made aware that we aren't playing games anymore.

I'm certain we all believe that Trump's remarks are just rhetoric. (And the markets overreacted, as usual, but more than normal this time. I always knew the "Korea" thing would be what sent volatility rocketing.) But he has backed himself into a corner.

Of course the alternative, from people smarter than me, is to accept the fact that NK is now a nuclear power. As unacceptable as that is, if it isn't a fact already it soon will be.

If we annihilate NK, South Korea and Toyko will probably fall.

There is no good answer, but bloviating line in the sand rhetoric just sets the world on edge, and is just another way for the attention starving Trump to put himself in the limelight.

The entire world must put pressure on China.
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[Sorry, I've been fighting like a Banshee trying to get back some of the 5K Trump cost me yesterday (and this morning) with his goddamn bullshit.]
For the record, I was long from yesterday morning and the rally was storming along and making me some nice coin, until Trump uttered his fury and fire line, and then all my profits went to shit yesterday before I finally got out, so it hurt me too...
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