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Old 05-30-2017, 07:57 AM   #1
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What happened to W I Mott -- just 3 Stakes wins since 2016

W I Mott has just 3 wins in Stakes races going back to April 30th, 2016




His horses aren't even hitting the board his Allowance races are just as bad

I don't like avoiding Trainers but I will have to avoid his horses in Stakes races
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:56 AM   #2
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That is Belmont only stakes? At non-Belmont stakes I have him at 16% (30/187).
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Old 05-30-2017, 12:27 PM   #3
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Probably what happened was he changed his name from Bill to W I

just kidding

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Old 05-30-2017, 01:37 PM   #4
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That is Belmont only stakes? At non-Belmont stakes I have him at 16% (30/187).
Hey Prof

Yes, I only have Belmont data but 16% across tracks for Stakes is still pretty low

I wish I knew what happened to his barn
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:49 PM   #5
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Chad Brown dominates turf

so it is possible that he gets the good horses...
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:47 PM   #6
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16% stakes wins isn't low.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:03 PM   #7
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I like your database.

Just recently, someone else was complaining about Mott and I provided some stats from Equibase where his 2017 stats ITM% and average per $ start were almost the same as his career ITM% and average $ per start. Considering the span of his career, that's still pretty good.

You can verify on the Equibase website by searching trainer.

Does anyone know where he also has a stable besides NY?
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Old 05-31-2017, 10:50 PM   #8
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Kentucky .... CD/KEE not ELP
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:58 AM   #9
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16% stakes wins isn't low.
No kidding, that would be average if a stakes race had an average of 6.25 entrants and I am taking a wild guess it is much higher than that.
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16% against the best trainers and horses is very commendable
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:13 AM   #11
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I think Mott is one of the most patient trainers I have ever seen. He really takes his time with his horses. I have a feeling come summer and fall, his horses will start doing better than so far in 2017.
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Bet him on his birthday at Saratoga. He usually wins one.
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Old 06-03-2017, 01:13 AM   #13
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Bet him on his birthday at Saratoga. He usually wins one.
Hey Arapola

Mott has a horse entered in a Stakes race on the Turf at Belmont

9th race
#9 Good Samaritan

Let's see if he can get his 4th Stakes race win in almost a year!!!

I have my doubts!!!
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:41 PM   #14
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Hey Arapola

Mott has a horse entered in a Stakes race on the Turf at Belmont

9th race
#9 Good Samaritan

Let's see if he can get his 4th Stakes race win in almost a year!!!

I have my doubts!!!

Well it looks like my suspicions were correct as #9 Good Samaritan finished 2nd and Mott has not won a Stakes race at Belmont since June 11th 2016



The losing streak for Mott continues as his horses have gone 0 for 18 in Stakes races at Belmont

Tough times continue for the Mott barn
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0-8 on 3-1 and under

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